Special Budget Board Meeting
HSVPOA Board of Directors, along with CEO, Lesley Nalley and CFO, Liz Mathis met via Zoom conferencing in a special-called, Budget Meeting. The purpose of this meeting, held on Tuesday, November 5, 2019, at 3:00 p.m. in the POA conference room was to finalize the 2020 Budget. At their previous Zoom meeting on Monday, October 28, 2019, the board gained a majority agreement in preparation to pass the budget today.
All Board Directors were present.
Director Campagna makes motion to approve Version 5 of 2020 Budget
Chairman of the Board, Cindi Erickson, called the meeting to order and Vice-Chair, Tormey Campagna, immediately made a motion to pass the HSVPOA 2020 Budget.
Campagna: “I make the motion to approve the 2020 Budget, Version 5 which includes:
- CPI increase to assessments of 1.1 %,
- 75 additional improved properties through building and sales incentives,
- 5 year, 500 thousand dollars of the 3-million dollar water plant payback from the public utilities – that 3 million is done over 6 years,
- 2% budget and staff merit increase for pay grades 5 through 9,
- Budget increase to pay grades 2 to 4 to accommodate the new minimum wage rates,
- 3% utility rate increase,
- 2.7% sanitation rate increase,
- Increase the road maintenance expenses by $500 [sic] from the escrow funds for culvert repairs, and
- 450 K rollover from the 2019 street maintenance fund.”
Nancy Luehring corrected, “$500,000 as opposed to $500.”
Director Buddy Dixon seconded the motion.
Director Podawiltz states objections
Director Diana Podawiltz’s discussion follows.
“In order to be succinct as possible today, I pre-wrote this. So I am going to read it. The Hot Springs Village Property Owners Association faces financial challenges. We have over 11,000 lots not paying any assessments. That number has increased by 3,000 since the passing of the two-tier increase, which equates to over 1.4 million dollars per year.
“We don’t have enough revenue to satisfy our needs.
“Our staff has made a valiant effort in establishing priorities for our 2020 operations.
“I especially appreciated Gary Myers telling us during his budget presentation last month that he has cut $400,000 out of his budget, year-over-year and there is nothing more to cut.
“However, in Version 5 of the 2020 Budget, over $100,000 more has been cut from the golf maintenance budget. We fail his department today by voting yes on this budget.
“We have not met or discussed any potential repairs to the Balboa Golf Course since we defeated the renovation proposal at our September Board Meeting.
“We’ve discussed that we can revise this budget to do something, but today’s budget version has every dollar of projected revenue already offset by projected expense. That means any expenditures for the course will have to come from reserves or taking on more debt.
“This will also be true if we fail to reach our 2020 revenue forecast. That being said, I would like to share my prior reason why this Board should vote no for this budget.
“The Board and our CEO are failing our staff, our Property Owners and other stakeholders by the Enterprise Goals that have been put in place to develop this budget and be the driver of our business decisions in 2020.
“The goal of measuring our operating success by having capital exceed depreciation has always been questionable and in this old accountant’s opinion, given the circumstances under which we’ve been operating since the funds generated by the two-tier assessment increase came out of escrow.
“However, this year, unbeknownst to me, our CEO changed our capital policy. We are now capitalizing items which in prior years were expensed. In my opinion, there is no logical business reason for violating the accounting principle of consistency and a possible violation of the accounting principle of conservancy.
“This change has the potential of causing business decisions to be made which are driven by this goal, that may not be in the ultimate best interests of the Association.
“The change has been a factor in the need to hire a fixed-asset accountant in 2020 and increases the workload of the accounting department, as it will increase the capital record bookkeeping requirements and will require several prior years’ financials to be reclassified.
“Without this reclassification, we will diminish the value of our financial management reports as we will be comparing apples to oranges.
“Thank you.”
HSVPOA 2020 Budget – Version 5 is approved
The Board approved the 2020 Budget, Version 5, including the items listed in the motion memo that have already been read by a vote of 4 in favor. Director Podawiltz was the lone opposition and it appeared her discussion was ignored by the rest of the Board.
Campagna made motion to revise Fitness Center annual fees
Vice-chair Campagna made the motion to revise the Coronado Fitness Center individual annual fee from $490 to $400 and revise all other related Coronado Fitness Center annual fees in proportion, of which were originally approved in the October 16, 2019 budget.
Director Luehring seconded the motion.
Campagna said, “In background, upon further reflection on assuming the 2020 budget, the case for advising the fees closer to which were originally recommended by staff was re-evaluated by the Board and that is the reason for this motion.”
Recreation Committee suggestion was vetoed
Director Podawiltz, “I still don’t understand why we had to go with a different amount than what was researched by the Recreation Committee on fees and all the researching efforts they put into it. I don’t understand why we are not going with the dollar amount that they suggested.”
Director Mike Medica said, “I talked to a couple of people about $400 and they didn’t have a problem with it so that is why I suggested it. I don’t think it is good for us to go all the way back to what we had…”
Campagna said we have a lot more services. Not everybody uses every service. It is difficult to match competitive pricing because of these extra services. “This puts us in a difficult position and that is why I support dropping it only to $400.”
The short meeting was adjourned by Erickson.
Audio only of Special Budget Meeting – November 5, 2019
By Cheryl Dowden, November 5, 2019
HSVP J
11/05/2019 — 6:19 pm
Diana was the Lone Voice of Reason. I am not an accountant, but it appears to me the CEO purposely manipulates the budget process to reflect the numbers more favorably with the intent to hoodwink the board members who are not familiar with budgeting. This is the very reason we need a Standing Finance Committee advising the board.
Concerned Villager
11/05/2019 — 6:25 pm
Cooking the books. Diana called them on it but nobody’s listening.
Or, as we call it in the trenches: SSDD – Same Shit Different Day.
We should all be concerned about this.
Joseph Vlasek
11/05/2019 — 6:58 pm
More Same Shit Different Day!
Mary
11/05/2019 — 6:39 pm
Thank you Diana for being our voice👋🏻 It’s really unfortunate that no one was listening and even if they were they don’t care! We need to get her out of our village before she destroys it completely.
George
11/05/2019 — 7:26 pm
Yes, it appears that none of them do their homework except Diana.
The CEO will manipulate as much as she can to promote herself.
Change the rules to look good, see it done in all failing enterprises.
It is a shame the BODs volunteer to do this and then won’t spend the time.
Rubber stamp rather than research and work through it.
Balboa needs work this year. Course is unplayable during the winter. Cart Paths are dangerous.
We need a professional management company to take this over. Eliminate the CEO, CMEO and 1/2 the directors. That will pay for the management company. It is not that hard. Board has the ability to initiate this.
Anonymous
11/10/2019 — 10:15 pm
Or maybe she changed the books to increase her bonus.
Julie
11/06/2019 — 5:17 am
The board hasn’t the ability to do anything meaningful. They are lost. They are incompetent. They are a joke.
Anonymous
11/06/2019 — 6:42 am
AGREED! Lesley must go! The 4 legacy Directors and turncoat Tormey must go!
They are destroying our Village.
We got 3 GREAT candidates running for election next year. Let’s put them in office and start the reconstruction of “RETIREMENT COMMUNITY!”
Ed Fowler
11/12/2019 — 4:42 pm
I wish I shared your optimism. I’ve been here for the past two elections and both times I thought we had voted change agents onto the board. Other than Diana P and Dick G, all have been busts. These guys don’t drink Kool-Aid, they mainline it.
Anonymous
12/05/2019 — 8:36 pm
The next 3 with the one remaining will make 4 who can remove the other 3 and replace with 3 that will unanimously terminate CEO.
Bob Busse
11/06/2019 — 9:59 am
This is an open letter to Director Tormey Campagna. It should also include
Directors Leuhring and Dixon, but they have been removed from reality too long
to be believed, whatever their response might be.
Tormey, would you please explain to the several thousands of members, who
supported you with money and votes, what has come to light, happened,
and/or enticed you to take a course of thinking and action that has been
diametrically opposed to what you presented to voters a year ago. Something
of significance has surfaced for you to turn against all those friends and
neighbors, and those unknown also, for you to blatantly reverse your stance on
almost everything you committed to in the past year’s election. I say it/they
must be of significance because to turn your back on all those who trusted you
and your word it must have been monumental. Most folks could not do that to
others.
If whatever it is is so enlightening and good for HSV that it changed your
opinions, and that of a small few of others before you, should we not all be
made aware so we all can join in to support leadership in a unified effort to
making our Village even better than it presently is? So, please, for the
betterment of our community, please let us know of these new insights and
things that have caused your total change in thinking in less than a year.
anon
11/06/2019 — 11:08 am
Tormey has turned his back on the villagers who elected him. He should resign and get out of the way.
George
11/06/2019 — 12:12 pm
Well said. He has seen the light and now must follow the path of those before him. We should all be so privileged to know what he now knows.
I recall him answering my specific question about the strategy that the 3 would employ to make change and he assured me they would win a 4th BOD member over. Most people would be ashamed to remain on the board, let alone reside in the Village after such cowardly turnabout.
Anonymous
11/06/2019 — 2:03 pm
Bob Busse, with out a doubt one of the most stunning reversals ever witnessed. Tormey went into that seat breathing fire. Shockingly he has acquiesced. MikeF
Anonymous
11/08/2019 — 12:31 pm
Got an answer from Tormey yet?
Mary Szczepaniak
11/21/2019 — 9:53 am
TY
Moe
11/06/2019 — 10:01 am
Doubt very much if you ever hear back from the guy…he is in hiding….
Steve Bylow
11/06/2019 — 3:16 pm
Wow – sad to see 5 Board members orchestrate a Budget approval process without engaging the loan board member who seems to have a questioning attitude of decisions made by the CEO.
Anonymous
11/06/2019 — 3:22 pm
It bears repeating:
So let’s (again) explore the topic of White Collar Crime…
Corporate fraud continues to be one of the FBI’s highest criminal priorities—in addition to causing significant financial losses to investors, corporate fraud has the potential to cause immeasurable damage to the U.S. economy and investor confidence. As the lead agency investigating corporate fraud, the Bureau focuses its efforts on cases that involve accounting schemes, self-dealing by corporate executives, and obstruction of justice.
The majority of corporate fraud cases pursued by the FBI involve accounting schemes designed to deceive investors, auditors, and analysts about the true financial condition of a corporation or business entity. Through the manipulation of financial data, the share price, or other valuation measurements of a corporation, financial performance may remain artificially inflated based on fictitious performance indicators provided to the investing public.
The FBI’s corporate fraud investigations primarily focus on the following activities:
Falsification of financial information
False accounting entries and/or misrepresentations of financial condition;
Fraudulent trades designed to inflate profits or hide losses; and
Illicit transactions designed to evade regulatory oversight.
Self-dealing by corporate insiders
Insider trading (trading based on material, non-public information);
Kickbacks;
Misuse of corporate property for personal gain; and
Individual tax violations related to self-dealing.
Obstruction of justice designed to conceal any of the above-noted types of
criminal conduct, particularly when the obstruction impedes the inquiries
of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), Commodity Futures
Trading Commission (CFTC), other regulatory agencies, and/or law
enforcement agencies.
Source: https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/white-collar-crime
Lorri Street
11/06/2019 — 3:25 pm
I, Lorri Street…posted the above comment as food for thought. Not sure why it came out as anonymous.
Vicky Didion
11/07/2019 — 7:15 am
Can’t we get the FBI involved NOW??
Kevin
11/10/2019 — 7:29 am
No one bought your claims in the Board election and no one is buying them now. They realized you hoodwinked them by campaigning for your neighbors to vote against themselves. Time you stood to account for your words.
November 10th 7:30am
Joe Dowden
11/10/2019 — 6:15 pm
How do you really know beyond a doubt that property owners rejected Lorri Street in the board election. The ballots were held by the CEO during the entire election process. Hot Springs Village has a flawed election process. HSV’s vote ballot handling process lacks integrity which means property owners cannot be 100% sure their ballots were counted honestly.
https://hotspringsvillagepeople.com/hsvpoa-board-election-integrity/
Kevin
11/10/2019 — 8:48 pm
Conspiracy theories are your thing Joe, not mine. Unless you have first hand facts so we can all get behind you, what we know is that the results showed Campagna winning by a land slide and Podawiltz was next.
Maybe Street should run again so we can double check the sentiment between her, Garrison and Sherman.
Better yet, step away from your computer and put your name on the ballot.
November 10th 8:47pm
Mary Szczepaniak
11/21/2019 — 9:57 am
TY, Lorri
Anonymous
11/06/2019 — 4:06 pm
Elections have consequences and when you run on a platform and do not live up to it, you need to leave on your own or we need to do our duty and relieve you. With our vote you get our trust you all have forgotten that. This board except Diana has let us all down. The 11,000 lots are the root of all our problems concentrate on that. Everyone knew that opening a real estate office was another stupid idea. Add it to the list of failures by POA boards. This budget will be added to that list. Accounting tricks are not the answer.
HSVP J
11/10/2019 — 6:22 pm
Agree 100%
Mary Szczepaniak
11/21/2019 — 10:01 am
Diana & Dick-let’s be sure to re-elect him
Wanda B Selman
11/06/2019 — 5:10 pm
Once again most of our board members have decided Village residents are inane beings who haven’t a clue how to make our Village viable. Have we learned anything about board membership seekers? I too am disappointed on Leuring, Dixon, Compagna and of course Erickson. Yes Ms Nalley needs to be relieved of her “duties”.
Andy Kramek
11/07/2019 — 8:47 am
Careful Wanda – you won’t be allowed to count ballots in the future if you keep making posts like this!
Mary Szczepaniak
11/21/2019 — 10:03 am
😊
Tom
11/06/2019 — 5:49 pm
It’s both sad and disturbing that the board continues to ignore the Property Owners. Most of the village business is held behind closed doors. Meetings are only for show.
I agree the +11,000 delinguent lots is our number 1 problem, yet we never hear the options that are open to us to recover the millions of dollars in lost revenue.
We often hear complaints about our marketing efforts, but we don’t hear much about what’s actually been done. Visitors from the time they enter thru the West Gate only see vacant office space and a community with limited stores and restaurants. If they stop by the Desoto Club, they see a poorly run food and beverage service and the vacant building, previously used to house the Pro Shop and Snack Bar (a building that been vacant for +5 years). You can only imagine their thoughts about the health of the Village if they make it as far as the East Gate. I purchased property in the Village 40 years ago and saw the beginnings of a beautiful place to visit and to retire to. If I knew what I know now I would have looked elsewhere.
There is so much that could and should be done if our community is going to thrive. This can only happen if and when the POA board positions are filled with people that want to listen to the ideas of the residents and want to make decisions that promote a growing and prosporous community.
Anonymous
11/08/2019 — 12:38 pm
The number of delinquent lot payments is strongly indicative of the prospect of those and the many intentions of moving here or becoming current on their payments.
If it’s our number one problem, what do you propose be done that hasn’t already been done.
Anonymous
11/19/2019 — 10:16 am
Stop raising rates.
Julie
11/06/2019 — 7:35 pm
Tom is right. A successful marketing campaign may well bring people to HSV, but once they get here what will they see? Closed businesses, lakes not dredged, roads in disrepair, lousy restaurants, run down golf courses, brush left from logging, a missing marina store, open gates, police at board meetings, poorly maintained trails, etc., etc.
Fix what is broken before you try to sell people on it.
Otherwise, all is in vain. All of it.
Mary Szczepaniak
11/21/2019 — 10:09 am
Excellent points. How do we get businesses to fill our buildings. We have to support them.
Vicky Didion
11/07/2019 — 7:17 am
Can’t we get the FBI involved NOW?? Or the IRS?
Seems to me SHE/CEO is manipulating expense/capital to her own advantage!
Mary Szczepaniak
11/21/2019 — 10:11 am
Does anyone know if John Cooper has had the audit done yet?
Minn Daly
11/07/2019 — 12:16 pm
Surprised that this ZOOMED BUDGET meeting took 20 minutes! We have a BOD that only listens to a CEO that they report to. This was set up by legacy BOD members to give the CEO power for all things HSV & the only away around this is with NEW BOD members who have the ability to take charge of this situation. Vote Tucker, Dick, Loyd in upcoming elections. We need BOD that understands. Financial budgets, who will have the CEO report to them on all issues HSV. Question is how much did ZOOM cost? Why did they need it? All they did was say yes to CEO, could have saved time & money without ZOOM. Over 36 million just peanuts to CEO & legacy BOD. Water rates, sewage rates, permits, stickers, golf sur charges can always cover the expense. Not reality but that is this CEO/BOD thinking on budget. Minn Daly
Mary Szczepaniak
11/21/2019 — 10:15 am
agree
Anonymous
11/08/2019 — 9:56 am
Julie, What does a lake not dredged look like?
Julie
11/10/2019 — 4:23 am
It looks shallow, unmanaged, and unused.
Sadly, though, you have a point. Many unsuspecting buyers will only learn the dark side of things here after purchasing.
I happen to know what an undredged lake looks like because I live on one. I can barely get out of my cove, if at all sometimes, because the lake is so shallow. Which, in large part is due to the rampant overwatering of the golf courses.
Again, gross mismanagement and ineptitude at every level.
Mel west
11/21/2019 — 4:09 pm
Mud
NittyGritty
12/01/2019 — 10:56 am
For what it’s worth, it is standard accounting practice to expense the short term and capitalize the long.
Anonymous
12/05/2019 — 8:42 pm
And change that standard practice from year to year in order to deceive.