Editors note: Frank Leeming wrote this article using the names of the ex-CEO and former Board Chair. I replaced the names with ‘ex-CEO’ and ‘former Board Chair’. Frank was reluctant for me to do this but he still agreed to allow us to publish his article on this website. Thank you, Frank. – Cheryl
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By Former Board Director, Frank Leeming 7-9-20
Board was talking about Balboa Porte-cochere, not Woodlands; former CEO, board chair complain about the facts
My aging ears didn’t hear well enough yesterday when I was watching the POA board’s work session.
The board was talking about removing the Porte-cochere at the Balboa Clubhouse, not the one between the Woodlands and Ouachita Building at the Ponce de Leon Center. Sorry for the confusion.
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In yesterday’s report, I also wrote:
“The board spent time trying to revise the policy covering the release of POA information.
“A convoluted process was imposed by the former CEO to block the release of information, or make it extremely difficult to get. A Saline Court circuit judge said ex-CEO’s policy was illegal and information should be made available to property owners.”
The ex-CEO was indignant and wrote:
“Mr. Leeming,
“I am in receipt of, among other things, your July 8, 2020, mass electronic communication accusing me of illegal acts. Your statement is false. Furthermore, you as a former HSVPOA Board member, are keenly aware that I did not establish the Records Availability policy at issue.
“Please consider this email as demand for you to immediately cease libelous and harassing communications that reference me in any form or fashion, including but not limited to those sent to your mass email database, current and former HSVPOA board members and corporate officers, attendees of your weekly group meetings, other individual HSVPOA members and the press.
“Given your numerous prior communications and my previous requests that your harassment cease, should this activity continue, be advised that I am fully prepared to pursue all civil and criminal remedies available to me.
“Regards,
“ex-CEO”
Sorry, Ms. ex-CEO, I stand by what I wrote. You might want to listen to vice-chair Lloyd Sherman’s description of what he went through trying to comply with your rules and obtain information the court said should be made available to property owners. [See video below.]
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Another voice from the past: The former board chair asked for a copy of Circuit Court Judge Robert Herzfeld’s ruling striking down the POA’s policy on denying property owners access to POA business. I sent it to her. She replied:
“I see no reference in that document to [the ex-CEO’s] policy. That’s your interpretation, perhaps, but you claim that the judge addressed the policy, of which he has no knowledge.
“We went to great lengths to make sure that your claim would be unfounded. We ran the policy and the form past the POA attorneys to MAKE SURE we ran no risk of being in conflict with the ruling. To state that any of us willingly or intentionally violated his order is just wrong, Frank.”
When I said, “I disagree with you, and so do a lot of other Villagers,” the former Board Chair said:
“What, exactly, do you disagree with, Frank? I offered no opinion, only facts.”
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Since both Ms. ex-CEO and Mrs. former Board Chair brought up Judge Herzfeld’s ruling in Cooper Communities, Inc. v Hot Springs Village Property Owners’ Association, I’d like to replay a few key elements of his decision:
“This is a simple business case,” he wrote.
“There is no criminal statute or penalty at stake, and there are no Constitutional or other fundamental rights implicated.
“In fact, the statute in question is endowing rights upon members of nonprofit corporations.
“Oddly, the Defendant (POA) has chosen to view the statute as limiting its own ‘right’ to keep important information secret from its members.
“The statute in question … is therefore subject to the lowest possible standard of review with the lowest possible stakes and the Defendant has a heavy burden to demonstrate that the language simply does not work.
“So, given that standard, is the statute in question – ‘All books and records of a corporation may be inspected by any member for any proper purpose at any reasonable time’ – unconstitutionally vague?
“In a word: no.”
Judge Herzfeld went on to say, Cooper, a property owner, and his request about contacting other property owners and “investigating the current salaries of organizational employees who are paid from membership dues and assets” is reasonable and proper.
This openness is not limited to Cooper, but to all members of the association, the judge wrote.
Under Ms. ex-CEO’s leadership and in blatant disregard of the ruling, the POA sent out an eblast the next day saying the ruling “is specific to CCI and the facts of its specific document request …”
The POA was wiggling and trying to delay as long as it could access by property owners to ex-CEO’s contract and other information.
The eblast said the POA was “working with legal counsel to revise record inspection and other policies in a manner that follows Arkansas law while upholding the POA’s purpose of preserving the value of property and promoting the health, safety, and welfare of our residents …”
The eblast said each request by a property owner to see the secret records “must be evaluated on a case-by-case basis under the facts and circumstances that exist at the time of the request,” a contention totally contrary to Judge Herzfeld’s ruling.
He wrote:
“Whether taken in phrases or as a whole, the statutory language has plain meaning and is clear from both the corporate and member perspective.
“An average person should reasonably understand and predict that these words mean members should have reasonable access to all of the recorded information held by their organization as long as they have some kind of minimal, non-malicious purpose for wanting the information.”
The emphasis was Judge Herzfeld’s, and I don’t think the judge could have been any clearer.
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There are a lot of strong feelings about the Balboa Club and what should be done with it.
If the idea of re-opening a restaurant comes up while the board and staff are wrestling with the issue over the next few weeks, I hope they will dig out the excellent final report of the board’s Food Service Committee.
It concluded the design of the kitchen in the clubhouse was so bad, no restaurant could be successful there.
Director Dick Garrison’s suggestion that the new Finance and Planning Committee look at revenue per capita at restaurants in the area would probably lead to the same conclusion.
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The state reported the second-highest number of new coronavirus cases today – 806 – pushing the total to 26,052. Hospital cases rose by 36 to a new total of 394, a record.
Despite the increases. Gov. Asa Hutchinson said public schools will open, albeit 10 to 14 days later than scheduled.
The good news: Garland and Saline counties continue to be relatively free of virus cases.
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By Former Board Director, Frank Leeming, 7-8-2020
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7-8-20 Discussion Session Video (click play to start at the beginning of the information request discussion)
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Walter
07/09/2020 — 8:16 pm
Frank. I’m glad you got under her skin. She left us a mess. I would say she should watch what she gets in the mail. Perhaps a demand letter from the current POA. All of the rocks have not been overturned. But the payroll has already been reduced greatly. The accounting is being restructured. She had zero documents and the worst accountability in terms of common business practices I have ever seen. Dan could confuse her with one question. Lol.
Clint
07/09/2020 — 9:18 pm
Sherman was pouting about not getting property owner email addresses and phone numbers electronically so he could more easily spam us. Hear for yourself towards the end of this meeting https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F8P7MMFdG5k
Omohundro had the good sense not to misuse contact information and Pam expressed concerns over the same scenario. Why are board members, past and present, advocating to violate our privacy? Shouldn’t they be addressing deferred maintenance instead?
HSVP C
07/09/2020 — 9:45 pm
Hello Clint or is it, Jim? Why did you post under two names? No matter what the Board or management wants, the judge ruled in the CCI vs HSVPOA case that members have a right to all POA records, including email addresses. The POA had the exclusive right to spam the members with their political agenda, which they did repeatedly under the ex-ceo. Remember the “Vote Yes” campaign? Property owners running for the board have a right to campaign on the same level playing field as the ex-ceo or POA. Judge Herzfeld was very clear in his ruling. Of course, the judge also said that even though he couldn’t require the POA to provide electronic records, the POA should want to do this. It is easier for the POA and easier for the requester. The only reason the POA did not provide the information for email addresses in electronic form is that they were playing politics against a political enemy of the ex-ceo. Guess what? In spite of the ex-ceo’s actions to thwart Lloyd, his hard work and the hard work of his many supporters from turning the email list into electronic form, this is what probably won him the election. And then what happened next? The CEO is gone.
Clint
07/09/2020 — 10:21 pm
Interesting obsessions and conspiracy theories but off topic. We can agree to disagree. At least some of our new board members agree that members should not be sitting ducks for scammers and spammers. They work for us not their own interests.
HSVP C
07/09/2020 — 10:37 pm
Congratulations Clint! Classic Saul Alinsky techniques. If someone disagrees with you just label them as conspiracy theorists or having obsessions. Property owners are smart enough not to fall for that.
Tom Blakeman
07/10/2020 — 2:25 pm
I find it hard to believe that this board even ventured into debate on what to do about records and information release policy. These are the same folks that all campaigned on transparency. What were they thinking?
The court ruling and common sense are crystal clear. If a property owner wants it they should get it, in a reasonable time, and without any delay, redacting, restrictions, fuss, argument or signing of waivers, etc. That means electronic format, useable to the requestor, or whatever is easiest and quickest for all concerned.
THAT MEANS A FUNCTIONING DATABASE EXTRACTION IN THE CASE OF AN EMAIL LIST.
Should the request be extraordinary, voluminous and require paper copy then a nominal service charge MIGHT be needed. Otherwise, NO CHARGE! The weak argument that somehow it might take a few minutes of our valuable staff time is totally bogus. We pay this staff upwards of $1.5 million per month to service ALL of our needs. THEY WORK FOR US THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
Furthermore, the idea floated of going into the flash drive reselling business is just plain dumb. It clearly reflects that someone has little Idea of how the information technology and communication world works today.
The fact is that most of the time, unless we again have a rogue board and administration, there will be very few requests for such information. In the past NOBODY WAS ASKING until in recent years it became obvious that our leaders were driving us hell bent to go over a cliff.
Fred Hale
07/10/2020 — 2:25 pm
I don’t trust people who whisper. If you got something to say – post your full name.
Minn Daly
07/11/2020 — 8:52 am
Frank, Cheryl, Tom, thank you all for putting out TRUTH, not fake statements on what happened under C-CEO & X BOD chair attitudes on giving members information & access as required by law. Frank, keep up your writing on issues that matter. Tom thank you, your statements on this issue is on target. Concerned that his BOD brought up the subject as this was a campaign issue that helped elect them. Minn Daly
Linda Anderson
07/11/2020 — 12:39 pm
Hold On Folks, Our Board has given us back our wonderful community while cleaning up the mess that the previous leadership left behind. HSV was a sinking ship with a swamp of classified secrets, financial disclosures, by-laws, policies & procedures that needed to be examined, removed , and possibly replaced. As Dan Aylward had said: He was working nite and day to try to access the financial status of HSV. So there is still a lot of work to be done to resolve and clarify HSV’s financial stability. Keeping that in mind, should there be a discussion of releasing any information to anyone when the POA is being restructured and reorganized? At this point an audit might be the best alternative.
Property Owners should have access to information that they feel are impacting their lives and their property- for now emergency situations. Continued changes and cost cutting efforts are all about maintaining and protecting HSV. Property Owner rights to information should become available when the Board has determined that HSV is in good financial shape, and the POA’s new GM has cleared the path for a healthy financial future.
HSVP C
07/11/2020 — 1:44 pm
Linda, thank you for your thought-provoking comment. The POA is legally-bound to release information to the property owners. Judge Herzfeld ruled in this matter in the CCI vs. HSVPOA Board. The board or management does not have the right to withhold POA records.
Linda Anderson
07/11/2020 — 3:44 pm
Cheryl, no one is contesting the fact that property owners have a right to see records. It’s all about giving the Board and appointed POA officials a chance to look thru the records ( or what’s left of them ) and try to figure out where all the money went and what is available to spend on repair and maintenance issues like roads, culverts or the Balboa Club House Remodel. I think we all want the same thing. To know the truth. To know we are financially stable and secure.
It’s just going to take some time to resolve the situation.
HSVP C
07/11/2020 — 4:47 pm
Linda, I agree. I think this board inherited a mess. Coreena and Jama have their work cut out for them, as does the board, the Finance and Planning Committee and staff. They have already done so much. Much kudos for all their hard work.
Jeff
07/11/2020 — 10:45 pm
We were hoodwinked by LTDD who are busy denying records requests and creating chaos. We’ve gone backwards!
Wondering how today’s GM interview went since one who accepted an offer supposedly decided not to come after being smeared by another candidate. Meanwhile the board chair and VP are talking about releasing info ONCE an offer is made. Some board members and volunteers on the search committee are leaking information while others are trying to hide the skeletons. It’s amateur hour around here.
steve bylow
07/13/2020 — 8:30 pm
Thanks for the update.
The x-CEO’s response is yet another example of poor judgement but I think the rest of us are ready to move on or as they say in the “Frozen” movie song – “Let It Go”.
I’m excited about the new GM and his breadth of experience.
Thanks
Steve
HSVP C
07/14/2020 — 6:35 pm
Thanks, Steve for your wonderful help! I am excited about the new General Manager and we welcome him with open arms.