Dear Deborah [last name redacted],
We received your message last night (October 30, 2019). We believe in supporting our restaurants. We also don’t have our heads in the sand and understand the amount of justifiable anger people have.
One thing in your message that is correct is: it is a RUMOR and only a RUMOR that we are involved in a boycott of the Beehive.
This was your message to us:
I have heard rumors that someone is trying to get Villagers to boycott The Beehive because Cindi Erickson has an interest in this business. Please reconsider such actions. If you are upset with Cindi, arrange to set up meetings with her and tell her your feelings. If people boycott this establishment, you are affecting the lives of people who are there trying to make a living to support family and loved ones. If the business is closed down because of boycotting, these people are the ones hurt. Right now, some have only been making $45 in 3 days. The Beehive is a a [sic] place that was thriving until recently. They are still trying to provide live entertainment every Friday and Saturday for free, Trivia on Tuesday nights are free to play from 7-9 pm. Greg and Trish Jones have invested in our community. But they are having to cut back on employees’ hours. At least one of the employees has made only $45 in 3 days. No one can live on that small amount. It is the action of boycotters that are causing those workers who are struggling to make ends meet that are [sic] being affected by the boycott. There are not that many food service jobs around and it is those people who are being being [sic] hurt, not Cindi Erickson. Please reconsider and stop boycotting. Take up your grievances with her, and don’t include innocent people that happened to find a job at the Beehive.
Deborah, you started out saying that you heard “someone” is trying to get Villagers to boycott the Beehive because Cindi Erickson has an interest in this business.
Then you proceeded to tell us to reconsider such actions. This statement presumes that we are doing this, which we are not.
We are not boycotting the Beehive, nor are we encouraging people to boycott the Beehive
We have a problem with certain aspects of HSVPOA and this has nothing to do with the Beehive.
While we have heard people say to boycott the Beehive because Cindi Erickson is part owner, we cannot control what other people say. For us to think that we can control what people say or do would be very presumptuous of us.
We are not aware of any organized effort to boycott the Beehive. We have heard only a handful of people suggest this and I do mean a small number.
We did arrange a meeting with Cindi Erickson
While we felt her agreement to have a meeting with us was a very gracious thing for her to do, the situation became very ungracious. Cindi successfully shut down people in the meeting when they were asking her some hard questions. While we found this offensive, we did not say anything about this because, at this point, we did not realize how much she often tries to control the narrative. We put this off to Cindi having a bad day. Originally, we still naively had high hopes she would represent the will of the majority of the Villagers instead of the CEO’s New Urbanism CMP. We were wrong. Cindi also shutdown Tormey Campagna at this meeting.
Subsequently, she has shut me down (Cheryl) when I tried to speak and also a number of other Villagers.
Cindi also has removed from the Board Meetings the first commenting period. This was the opportunity for Villagers to speak about the agenda. This shuts down Villagers.
In addition to this, the Board has started Zooming some of their meetings, which precludes all of the audience from making a verbal statement. As Chairman of the Board, the responsibility for the ultimate decision to Zoom the meetings would lie directly on Cindi’s shoulders. This shuts down Villagers.
People are angry with some of the things Cindi has done. Maybe because of Cindi’s actions, some people are not supporting the Beehive. I don’t know if this is happening or not. Everyone is free to make their own choices and we have not asked anyone or any group to boycott the Beehive.
Putting blame on the wrong people
Sometimes when something bad happens, people tend to want to blame others when they only need to look in the mirror. If the Beehive is not thriving, perhaps look for other reasons instead of trying to blame us. We have heard many nice things about the Beehive, but we have also heard some negative things. The positive comments have outweighed the negative.
Possibly the explosion and fire at the restaurant caused some bad publicity. That must have been horrifying to be enjoying a leisurely dinner and then there is an explosion and fire from a hamburger being flamed at the table. (We are not placing any blame on anyone for this incident and do realize this was an unfortunate accident.)
Possibly business is down (if indeed it is) because it is the off-season.
Another possible reason for less business might be rainy and cloudy weather. A lot of our visitors are golfers and they cannot golf in the rain.
This is what I posted in our Facebook group in February when some individuals were questioning whether it is a conflict of interest for Cindi to vote on certain issues due to her ownership in the Beehive. (While no one in the group can share the Facebook conversation of other members, it is perfectly acceptable to share your own posts. I am choosing to share my post here in order to clarify some things):
Posted February 22, 2019
BOD member, Cindi Erickson has contacted us. She has “heard” of the conversation happening in the group. She says she would like to clarify some issues.
Please send any questions you would like to ask Cindi Erickson to me in a private message or email. I will share the questions with Cindi and then share her responses with the group. The author of the questions will not be shared. My email address is pennywisebuys@gmail.com
To be fair, we need to hear Cindi’s side of the issues.
Obviously, someone has contacted Cindi. While it is okay to discuss these same issues outside of the group, it is not okay to share the exact conversation or expose who the person is making the comments. Thank you.
Updated to add email from Cindi:
Good afternoon, Cheryl,
I am so glad you posted your email address.
In advance of any questions people may choose to pose, allow me to share these facts. Feel free to do with them whatever you choose.
Here are the current facts:
· Village Progressives is an LLC that owns the Beehive business (not the real property – we lease that from a private party, not the POA)
· Village Progressives also owns the operating contract for the Balboa Marina (again, we don’t own the real property; in fact, we don’t lease anything there, just operate it)
· Village Progressives has 4 business partners: Greg and Trisha Jones, Gordy Lowery and me (but not my husband). I am not a majority partner.
· One of Village Progressive’s partners, Greg, has privately purchased Last Chance. He intends to bring in other partners not currently associated with Village Progressives. I am not one of those partners, nor is my husband. It will be owned and operated as an entirely separate entity, not Village Progressives.
Cindi Erickson
We have no reason to believe the information Cindi provided in February is not factual. In other words, Cindi does have an interest in the Beehive and the Balboa Marina and does not have any official business interests in Xplore the Lakeside restaurant.
We would like to encourage Villagers to patronize worthy restaurants in the Village. If we do not patronize our restaurants, there will be consequences.
The consequence of not patronizing our already heavily subsidized POA-owned restaurants is that less patronage may mean higher subsidization. (Unless they would do the unthinkable and shut down the restaurant. We don’t look for that to happen as the restaurants are on the golf courses.)
If we do not patronize the privately-owned restaurants, we will lose them. An under-patronized restaurant does not usually remain in business for long.
So if you believe a restaurant is worthy of staying in business and you enjoy the restaurant, and if you are able, by all means, we encourage you to support this restaurant, whether it is a POA-owned establishment or is owned by private entities.
Respectfully submitted,
Joe and Cheryl Dowden, October 30, 2019
Deborah Dutton would like it to be known that she is not the Deborah who wrote the email. This is correct. It was a different Deborah.
Moe
10/30/2019 — 1:06 pm
Not a good idea to frequent restaurants that are on life support. First of all, quality issues may appear. Secondly, service will decrease. Thirdly, why not just eat at home? Save some money.
If we all support POA subsidized restaurants we will lose even more money as more meals will need to be underwritten by the POA. If they were packed full every night they could not turn a profit.
Anonymous
10/30/2019 — 1:23 pm
I feel that the Beehive is one of the better places to go to Many or a few folks advocate a boycott which in my opinion is very unfair to the employees who work at the Beehive To those who boycott I say stop it take your concerns to the BOD meeting Address Ms Cindy about your concerns that she is a partner in a private enterprise Which by the way
is quite good
ME
10/30/2019 — 1:35 pm
So we can be influenced by others so easily? You really don’t give people much credit to think we are not capable of thinking for ourselves. I personally have never been to the Beehive, not because anyone told me not to but because I haven’t wanted to go. Now I am feeling the opposite, pressure that I should go which really will not make it more attractive to me.
HSVP C
10/30/2019 — 1:50 pm
ME, you are correct. Most of us think for ourselves and we did not mean to imply otherwise. Please don’t feel pressured to go to any restaurant. Our article contained the opinion of Deborah and also our opinion regarding the Village restaurants. No one needs to feel obligated to patronize anyplace.
We said this in the article, “So if you believe a restaurant is worthy of staying in business and you enjoy the restaurant, and if you are able, by all means, we encourage you to support this restaurant, whether it is a POA-owned establishment or is owned by private entities.” If someone doesn’t enjoy a particular restaurant or even enjoy any restaurants, for any reason, then they should not feel obligated to go.
Thank you for your support and for expressing your opinion.
Anne Shears
10/30/2019 — 3:03 pm
Technically, a “boycott” is an organized activity and has leadership that actively urges consumers NOT to support a commercial business. Often, boycotts include picketing to prevent potential customers from entering the business. Those activities have not happened here.
There are a variety of reasons why individuals may not patronize a business. These include: bad food, slow service, inadequate parking, too noisy, rowdy patrons, bad location, and poor management, in addition to dislike of the owner.
While the BOD Chair’s response addressed peripheral issues, perhaps the BOD Chair might want to consider taking a more active role in running the restaurant herself.
I think other questions also might be raised such as:
Is Mr. Jones stretched too thin being involved in about five different enterprises in the Village?
Are some villagers failing to support the Bee Hive not only because of dislike for the “silent” partner, but also because of Mr. Jones’ behavior at Melinda’s Coffee House when he rudely went in there and announced that he was opening a competing business in the village and that the Melinda’s patrons should support it?
As for the Villagers: Some Villagers are simply very particular about the company they keep.
Cindy Anderson
10/30/2019 — 4:49 pm
I agree. Have heard some things I don’t like about the owners/investors of a few of the businesses here in Our wonderful Village. I will not go to these places. Cindi needs to come off her high horse and acknowledge she has a conflict of interest being chairman of the board and an owner/investor. I also do not like the favortism the bod/manager shows to certain businesses and not others.
Greg Jones
10/31/2019 — 12:09 pm
Just to be clear, I never went to Melindas and made any sort of announcement. I work hard to be a professional business person and I know all owners need to have a good relationship.
I do take offense to whoever is spreading this false information.
Greg
Dave
10/30/2019 — 5:45 pm
I have been there in the past and do not find it to my liking as far as the drink choices and appetizers. I have also received pastries from the coffee shop near ReMax and also don’t care for their mixtures. It is my personal taste and I will patronize business’ I care for. I don’t consider this sticking my head in the sand, I consider it my preference !! The other business’ in the area are very good and I patronize them regularly and plan to continue. It seems it’s managements choice in what they serve and it is not to some peoples liking. Although I also do not believe a board member should be involved in community business’ as I do believe in “conflict of interest” even if our community leaders do not. My decision, not theirs. I join in such a venture.know of NO boycott although I have heard rumors, but no one to my knowledge has ever asked anyone to
Dave Sintich
10/30/2019 — 5:47 pm
I have been there in the past and do not find it to my liking as far as the drink choices and appetizers. I have also received pastries from the coffee shop near ReMax and also don’t care for their mixtures. It is my personal taste and I will patronize business’ I care for. I don’t consider this sticking my head in the sand, I consider it my preference !! The other business’ in the area are very good and I patronize them regularly and plan to continue. It seems it’s managements choice in what they serve and it is not to some peoples liking. Although I also do not believe a board member should be involved in community business’ as I do believe in “conflict of interest” even if our community leaders do not. My decision, not theirs. I join in such a venture.know of NO boycott although I have heard rumors, but no one to my knowledge has ever asked anyone to
Linda Van Scotter
10/30/2019 — 6:48 pm
I, Linda Van Scotter, of my own free will, have publically announced, for most of the past 4 years, that I will not frequent a POA run restaurant nor visit any restaurant or shop, with affiliates to Cindi Erickson or Greg Jones.
No one has coerced me into these actions or behavior. I am not part of a larger group effort. I frankly choose to take my business elsewhere.
I personally believe the POA does not know how to run a profitable restaurant. I personally don’t support any endeavors by Cindy Erickson nor Greg Jones.
It has been suggested to me on more than one occasion that I should rethink my attitude and behavior. I have chosen not to Change.
At no time did I feel pressured from any group, Facebook page, website, or individuals.
David Twiggs is my trigger for these actions with not releasing the grandma club to Tanner’s. If I don’t like you, I probably won’t go to your restaurant.
Freewill.
Randall Bright, Sr.
10/31/2019 — 11:59 am
Well stated! 👍🙋♂️👍
Greg Joned
10/31/2019 — 12:23 pm
I’d appreciate the chance to get together with you. If I have done anything to offend you please accept my sincerest apology.
Frank Shears aka Bubba
10/30/2019 — 7:56 pm
Is the Beehive really a restaurant or is it a tavern? I always thought it was a tavern and I don’t drink very often so I’ve never had the desire to go visit the place. Boycott it??? Nope. Not going to happen. Not planning to go there either.
I do support several businesses in the Village. Most are not subsidized by the POA but some are. It has more to do with which businesses provide good service at an acceptable price. Some people DO like the Beehive. That is fine with me and if they enjoy it, then good for them. That us where they should go.
Monica
10/31/2019 — 7:03 am
First of all if you are running a restaurant you should know and be prepared for the ups and downs!!! Do you know the failure rate of restaurants?
I know of no boycott. I’ve personally eaten at the Beehive twice and didn’t care for it. So I choose (did you get that word choose) not to go there.
Second please don’t try and guilt me or anyone by telling us how your business is slow because of us and WE are responsible for your employees not making enough wages to live on! Sounds like a typical politician who like to use the line “but it’s for the children or you are hurting the children “! Im sure you didn’t expect the restaurant business to be easy and a big money maker for you! Get over yourself and quit blaming others for your business being slow or poor!!
Randall Bright, Sr.
10/31/2019 — 12:19 pm
👍🙋♂️👍 Those chastising HSV residents for NOT patronizing businesses within our gates. . . .playing the “guilt card” . . . .AND/OR claiming a boycott is occurring based on a rumor ARE creating excuses!
Food 4 thought
10/31/2019 — 7:57 am
As a 40 year veteran of the food industry and as a now freelance restaurant critic I can honestly say my only prejudice against any village establishment is poor food and poor service.
We no longer frequent the Beehive simply because their food is of unacceptable quality.
Tom Blakeman
10/31/2019 — 8:10 am
My first impression of Beehive was: Poor Location! It is not well located or adjacent to other Village venues and who would want to go to a restaurant in front of a garbage transfer plant?
It has also been my observation over the years that few restaurants make it past the two year mark. Typically they open with great fanfare and often provide a trendy new approach to the market. Then, after the “new” wears off business slows. Unless they continue to offer super quality food, service, ambiance and competitive pricing they eventually fade away.
Perhaps these issues are what’s hurting Beehive.
Or, perhaps it is the same issue hurting all the POA restaurants – too much competition in the general market area of Hot Springs to Benton and Little Rock.
James Erickson
10/31/2019 — 9:13 am
“Worthy” is in the taste of the beholder.
Let the Village vote with their patronage and wallets.
NittyGritty
10/31/2019 — 9:16 am
definition of progressive – favoring or implementing social reform or new, LIBERAL ideas
For the most part, Arkansas supports conservative ideas and establishments.
The Christian thing to do when you are responsible for the accidental burning of someone is to OFFER to help and then PROVIDE as much help as possible. The Bee Hive has been silent except to excuse their lack of common sense. Who wants to support a restaurant that treats their VICTIMS that way? Not me!
Greg Jones
10/31/2019 — 12:19 pm
We did offer help and reached out to the person that was injured. It was a very unfortunate accident.
George
10/31/2019 — 12:27 pm
Greg,
Are you really experiencing the effects of a “boycott” at the Beehive (because of Erickson), or is this just another HSV rumor?
NittyGritty
10/31/2019 — 3:31 pm
Greg,
I (and likely others) might be comforted to know what help, and how much of it, have you provided to the burn victim?
Anonymous
10/31/2019 — 6:48 pm
You know…..your question falls under the heading of “It’s none of your business”.
NittyGritty
10/31/2019 — 11:48 pm
“You know” that would ONLY be true IF the answer embarrasses the restaurant owners! If the answer was something truly honorable, I wouldn’t be asking the question because they wouldn’t be trying to sweep the victim’s consequences under their rugs! You can think “none of your business” and that’s what you’ll get…NONE OF MY BUSINESS!
George
10/31/2019 — 12:21 pm
Cheryl,
If you are presenting questions for Cindy to respond to on your site, I would suggest a couple.
1. Why does she remain an investor in the Beehive/LLC group given her position in the community?
Common sense would indicate that this has a disruptive effect on both the Beehive and the POA membership. I understand that she is a small investor and not a participant in operational decisions. Let her invest her money in entertainment or restaurant stock/mutual funds.
She does not tolerate any disruptive behavior from the community so why should the community tolerate her disruptive behavior.
2. Why has her leadership of the board been so biased in favor of the CEO?
As chairperson there should be a balance of the investors (membership) interests and leadership Nalley) direction of the corporation. She certainly should be holding the CEO accountable for her results, let alone her actions. Yet she appears in meetings I have attended and watched to defend and protect her beyond what any reasonable person would expect. She appears to give little thought to the repercussions of her actions in the eyes of the community/investors. There is long list of the failures of the CEO and they have all been presented before. Everyone understands what we are lacking and what we are faced with, even if they refuse to admit it. However, if she needs reminding…in a nutshell, CEO is lacking leadership, experience and the willingness to take direction. What we have is a divided community (lack of trust), lawsuits and failed approaches.
We should not be “afraid” of cutting the CEO loose, there are many qualified people who would love the opportunity to turn around an organization of our size and potential. The “cost” to keep her has become unjustifiably.
Vicki
11/02/2019 — 12:02 pm
You raise some excellent points! I too see a conflict of interest. It’s concerning that she entered into this financial arrangement as a sitting Board Member.
Kathi
10/31/2019 — 1:07 pm
I love the Beehive. The menu is creative and changes all the time to offer new and interesting options. They even have a number of vegetarian choices. Great local beers on tap as well as the regular standards…not to mention an array of specialty cocktails. And Mel’s carrot cake is to die for!
The staff is knowledgeable, helpful and professional.
I count myself fortunate to have this “neighborhood hang out”.
Thanks to all of you at the Beehive.
Moe
10/31/2019 — 1:42 pm
I love carrot cake. Maybe I should try it some day.
This is great news!
Right Wing
10/31/2019 — 8:41 pm
My family will not support any business affiliated with Village Progressives LLC.
Moe
11/01/2019 — 7:45 am
But what about the carrot cake??
Any Nonomous
11/01/2019 — 8:15 am
Just the name Village Progressives conjure up an image NOT compatible with most Villager’s belief systems.
Jacob Wilson
11/01/2019 — 9:38 am
The Bee Hive is the ONLY real venue in the Village if you like live music. They bring in everything from soloists, to duos & trios, to full rock bands. It’s a great place to kick back with friends, listen to the music, have a drink and some good food and enjoy yourself without having to travel to Little Rock or Hot Springs.
In all the years HSV has been in existence, it took the creative mind of Greg Jones to figure out what Property Owners wanted and he implemented this venue without any subsidiaries from the POA.
Greg Jones and his team of entrepreneurs have done more for this Village than any overpaid, under-skilled POA manager or Board member.
We should be thanking Greg and his team for caring enough about the Village to risk their own money to provide a great place for Villagers to enjoy.
Of course, we could be handing out bars of solid gold at the entrances of the East and West Gates and for sure the haters that lurk in these blogs and on ND would surely find something wrong with it.
See you all at The Bee Hive!
Anonymous
12/07/2019 — 6:26 pm
Won’t see me. Been by there to get something for lunch more than once and it has always been closed. Won’t waste my time trying again.
Nomo Rock
12/27/2019 — 5:23 pm
Full rock bands … that would be a count me out!!!!! 👎🤫🤠
Karen Daigle Lundberg
11/01/2019 — 4:24 pm
I stand the same as Linda Van Scotter. I, Karen Daigle Lundberg, have not organized any type of boycott against any of the entities in which Cindi Erickson is an owner. I, personally, do boycott those entities, and will state that to anyone when the subject comes up. Coincidentally, I was invited to the Balboa last night, and when turning down the invitation, I stated, “I will not give one dime of my money to anything Cindi Erickson is a partner in or owns.” I did find it odd that she FINALLY came out and admitted to being a partner in the Balboa Marina, because I have personally witnessed Cindi Erickson denying that fact. Also, if she is not a partner in Xplore Lakeside, then why does the Arkansas Secretary of State website list Village Progressives as the owner of Balboa Lakeside (a/k/a Xplore Lakeside), Beehive Neighborhood Hangout, and Beehive Restaurant? There may be a reason for this, but if so, I would think it would be important for our Chairperson of HSVPOA to clarify the situation. I do find it hilarious that Cindi Erickson is now suffering from an investment that is not producing well. Welcome to our World, Cindi Erickson. At least you do not have anyone telling you that you cannot say anything about it or tie your hands behind your back, like you and your cronies have done to Villagers. It’s called KARMA, Cindi. Enjoy it.
As far as Greg Jones and the incident at Melinda’s Coffee House, I have heard the same story many times. Possibly Greg Jones could have Melinda make a statement that that event did not happen, if what Mr. Jones said it’s true.
To the employees of the Beehive and Xplore Lakeside. I am sorry that you are having to suffer at the hands of Cindi Erickson, because, in the long run, this is entirely her fault. Possibly you could all get together and explain to her that she, her partners, and her businesses might be treated more fairly if SHE would treat the possible patrons of the businesses fairly and properly in the Board Room. Good luck with that!!
Anonymous
11/03/2019 — 5:45 pm
Greg, you have the wrong partner. Boycotting was never the intention but she is arrogant and polarizing.