by Frank Leeming, August 20, 2019
Hot Springs Village CEO, Lesley Nalley, has filed formal grievances against two of three new members of the board of directors. She accused them of interfering with her ability to do her job.
Diana Podawiltz and Dick Garrison were elected this year as part of a property-owner revolt over the way Nalley and a majority of the last three boards have been leading the Village.
Podawiltz and Garrison summoned to sit before an arbitrator
Podawiltz and Garrison were summoned yesterday to the POA Building to sit before an arbitrator and answer questions about their behavior. The arbitrator is attorney Mary Carole Young, who specializes in medical malpractice and school law. She is with the Little Rock firm of Munson, Rowlett, Moore & Boone.
Unprecedented action
A CEO or general manager filing charges against sitting board members is unprecedented in the 49-year history of the Village. Indeed, it may be unprecedented in the corporate world, which recent Village board majorities have been trying to emulate.
Campagna hired Young to investigate Podawiltz & Garrison
Young stressed she is independent and isn’t interested in the politics surrounding Nalley’s relationship with the board. She is looking only at the legal issues involved. When she completes her fact-finding, she will submit a report to board Vice-chair Tormey Campagna, who hired her on behalf of the board.
In his meeting Monday, Garrison told Young “the only reason we’re sitting here today” is politics. He said Nalley will attack anyone who disagrees with her or her agenda.
“She’s thin-skinned and we’re getting too close to what she’s trying to do,” Garrison told Young.
The specifics of the grievances are confidential. Garrison was not given a copy of the charges until the end of yesterday’s session.
Nalley believes Podawiltz & Garrison are interfering with her duties
From what Young said, Nalley believes Podawiltz and Garrison are interfering with her power to hire, fire and discipline employees, issue contracts and she believes they’re making false statements about her.
Nalley, who Young referred to as “the victim,” was not present when Podawiltz and Garrison were interviewed separately yesterday. She, as well as other board members and POA executives, had been interviewed earlier by Young.
The “defendants,” as Young referred to the two directors, were the last to be interviewed, but they may refer other witnesses and documents to Young if they feel it is necessary.
Podawiltz, an accountant, has been openly critical about the way POA finances are presented and has argued for establishing a standing finance committee to provide property-owner input into spending plans.
Garrison has argued the POA’s Village Homes & Land real-estate operation should be shut down because it’s losing money and competing with Village Realtors.
Garrison stated POA is misleading property owners on finances
“I campaigned as a business person with extensive financial experience with Fortune 500 companies,” Garrison told Young. “I understand profit-and-loss statements, and I’m going to say up front the POA is misleading property owners on financial matters.”
Young re-emphasized she didn’t want to “get into the politics. They’re not relevant to the grievances.”
This email was sent to correct misinformation
* * *The decision to send this email was made because there has been a lot of misinformation floating around the Village for the last few weeks about legal action involving Nalley, Podawiltz and Garrison, and after weighing two important and conflicting points of view:
• On one hand, Young stressed the grievances are confidential and should not be made public without permission from the POA’s attorney, who could not be reached yesterday. Making them public could lead to legal action and jeopardize the board’s future dealings with Nalley, Young said. Both Podawiltz and Garrison argued against sending out this email, saying the process should be given time to play out.
• On the other hand, property owners have a right to know their CEO is filing grievances against members of the board, which some say is a form of intimidation intended to get directors to toe the CEO’s line.
In the end, I think it’s more important for property owners to know what’s going on. Particularly when you think about the estimated $10,000 it is costing property owners to find the facts involved in this latest power play.
And wasn’t openness and transparency the bottom line in a recent court decision that blasted the POA for being too secretive?
Finally, we hope Vicechair Campagna will make public results of the fact-finding as soon as the investigation is complete and a report is filed with him.
* * *At tomorrow’s board meeting, POA staff will present their recommendations for renovating the Balboa Golf Course the future of the Balboa Club House. The meeting begins at 9 a.m. in the Ouachita Room at the Ponce de Leon Center.
* * *Read the report CEO Nalley will give at the board meeting tomorrow in the PDF below. It is the most complete outline of where she thinks the Village’s finances are going. It’s important reading, and how it’s debated and handled will have an impact over time on the value of your home.
by Frank Leeming, August 20, 2019
CEO-Report-AugustNote from Cheryl: Above is an email sent to me and other Villagers from Frank Leeming regarding a grievance CEO Nalley filed against two POA board directors. This grievance resulted in the formal investigation of Diana Podawiltz and Dick Garrison. I spoke with Frank regarding this and he said he attended yesterday’s meeting with Dick Garrison. In other words, this is a first-hand report of this meeting. I have not spoken with any Board Directors regarding this issue.
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 2:21 pm
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – as loud as I can – LESLEY MUST GO!
Somebody, Joe, Cheryl, Lorri, Gene – ANYONE – put a campaign together to OUST Nalley from her office. She is DESTROYING our Village!
Set up a GO-FUND-ME site to counter-suit Nalley on behalf of Property Owners in support of Podawiltz and Garrison and I’ll personally contribute until it hurts! So will all of my friends and neighbors!
Please – someone! Let’s take control of our Village. Let’s remove Nalley and get our Village back to the way it was when we all bought in to this paradise.
The Village, thanks to Nalley, her legacy BOD members and now turncoat Tormey are destroying it.
Let’s take action – NOW!
Anonymous
09/05/2019 — 3:47 pm
Mr./Ms,
I want to be included in your efforts to fire Nalley, and I want to contribute money for that. We need a war chest and a top-of-the-line contract lawyer. Please contact me. John DuncanHim
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 2:22 pm
Any more proof of who thinks they are Wonder Woman?
Minn. Daly
08/20/2019 — 2:26 pm
Thank you for letting all POA know of this action that is unheard of from this community! How could the other BOD members allow this to happen? We all have a right to know about finances & all things connected to HSV, as the Judge stated in COOPER law suit. We in my family support these two BRAVE members for speaking Truth to so called power! This intimidating of staff ,BOD & members must stop immediately! Resignations should be on the table! Respectfully, Minn Daly
Mark Meyers
08/20/2019 — 2:44 pm
this is beyond disgusting, but what can we do? Gotta be something…..
Minn Daly
08/20/2019 — 2:54 pm
We can all attend tomorrow BOD meeting, supporting the 2 BRAVE members that is exposed to this action. Letting the others know the disgust we have for allowing this to happen.
Dave Sintich
08/20/2019 — 3:12 pm
Regretfully I have been away from this helping friends. Upon reading this “Memo” I again see the facts being aimed in different directions and not at the cause of the main problem, MONEY. We as residents bring in ruffly 39 million dollars for the Village to run on. When the monies are scattered for non essential reasons such as attorney fees, trips, over indulgent salaries and CMP’s , little is left for the infrastructure. And as her “Memo” states, considerations are in future ideas for special assessments or raising dues. If the monies are continuously used unwisely the future of our Village is bleak. The property owners need to come together and regain the proper control with a vote as to who is no longer heading in the direction of growth and prosperity and elect informed and experienced dedicated directors to lead us into a healthy future. If the CEO is asked to step down, someone with the education we need will be hired and can work with the board and not try to run it as their own chess board. If she goes, we have to pay her anyway but she won’t be spending any longer.
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 3:18 pm
Once again, she thinks she should be running the board. We have two on the board (certainly not the turncoat Tormey) and the majority of the Village that understands we elected the Board to run the POA administration.
Sick & tired
08/21/2019 — 6:32 pm
Totally agree. But., we really need legal support! I can’t even imagine how many retired lawyers live in the Village. Why don’t you stand up for the villagers? If you have knowledge in your field, meet with us as OUR counsel. There are a lot of Villagers sick and tired of living our retirement in this constant upheaval. Please direct us. Get in contact with Joe & Cheryl Dowden to form a secretive group of like-minded people so we have a fighting chance to take back our village & stop the train from derailing. LN is supposed to be an employee of the bod. Not the other way around. Other than the agreement she has over the board & everyone working with the POA, there should be a way of fighting. Please help the village by stepping up a giving us a reason to enjoy peace & serenity in our retirement
Gene Garner
08/20/2019 — 3:24 pm
I wondered how this fiasco ended up in arbitration and then I reread her contract;
10. Any controversy, dispute or disagreement arising out of or relating to this Agreement, or the breach thereof, shall be settled by arbitration, which shall be conducted in Central Arkansas, and judgment on the award rendered by the arbitrator may be entered in any court have jurisdiction thereof.
This contract signed the 19 day of March, 2019 by our mutual signatures below.
(Signed by)
Tom Weiss
Lesley Nalley
This “poison pill” defense was approved by Tom Weiss and proves how clever she wrote her contract. I still wonder why he went along with her and why the other six directors allowed it to happen.
We now have a situation where the employee will tell her employer, what tune to dance to, or she will take them to arbitration. I’ll say it again –There aren’t seven Villagers with the training or experience to govern HSV as directors and we need to look at alternatives.—Gene
Tom Blakeman
08/20/2019 — 6:55 pm
Gene,
I feel certain that Nalley did not dream up and write the contract. My money says Weiss and Weidert did, in concert with the lawyers which we paid for.
Kirk Denger
08/20/2019 — 9:17 pm
Gene and Tom, Look no further into who wrote these contracts than Andreas Duany, the cult leader of the Congress of New Urbanism, who was raised in Communist Cuba during the revolution.
ROBERT WHIPPLE
08/21/2019 — 1:02 pm
It was probably her predecessor old what’s his name
Melinda Noble
08/22/2019 — 7:50 am
Lesley’s contract was written by POA lawyers.
Judith K Zitko
08/20/2019 — 3:26 pm
Nalley reminds me of someone else…..hmmmm who could that be who’s a leader and has a thin skin and punishes anyone who disagrees with him? It’ll come to me.
Anyway, what are these two board members done that would require our money be used to hire an outside attorney to arbitrate? And how does one arbitrate when the accusers is absent? I’ve long felt she reminds me of one who thinks she’s a politician and she certainly appears to have an agenda, I’d just like to know what the hell it is. No one is more dangerous than a cornered rat.
Sick & tired
08/21/2019 — 6:38 pm
Totally agree. But., we really need legal support! I can’t even imagine how many retired lawyers live in the Village. Why don’t you stand up for the villagers? If you have knowledge in your field, meet with us as OUR counsel. There are a lot of Villagers sick and tired of living our retirement in this constant upheaval. Please direct us. Get in contact with Joe & Cheryl Dowden to form a secretive group of like-minded people so we have a fighting chance to take back our village & stop the train from derailing. LN is supposed to be an employee of the bod. Not the other way around. Other than the agreement she has over the board & everyone working with the POA, there should be a way of fighting. Please help the village by stepping up a giving us a reason to enjoy peace & serenity in our retirement
David Sintich
08/20/2019 — 3:28 pm
As for Diana and Dick, I commend them for sticking to their campaign platforms to lead the Village to prosperity. If two voices are so aggressively detrimental to the CEO’s job, then the CEO can’t handle the pressure of real world business. Many of us have been in large business and have seen their workings. No group regularly sees eye to eye on any important matters. But they decide on majority rule. If a grievance had to be filed it tells me the waters are to deep for her to enjoy the total control she aims for. The latest contract is criminal, and should be rejected by the population in a vote. We elected directors to speak for us but many have sold us down the river. It’s time for the population to speak up and regain control, and we have two directors who will work with and stand up with newly elected , dedicated candidates and a committed community to take HSV into the next 50 years.
Lloyd Sherman
08/20/2019 — 3:59 pm
This is nothing short of unprecedented. Why would an arbitrator/lawyer specialized in medical malpractice oversee this event? Seems like this resource should be well-versed in what is proper for non-profits. Under what policy or Bylaw is a POA employee allowed to file a grievance against a board member who is her direct employer? How can anyone who is charged with something not be allowed to know what they have been charged with? This process seems more like a kangaroo court than it does an arbitration! Since when can you file a grievance simply because the appearance is they are bucking the will of one individual? Something is seriously wrong with what has been allowed to transpire here with a board taking a subservient role to the person hired to carry out the wishes of the board by way of the will of the people. This needs to stop!
Everett Richardson
08/20/2019 — 4:05 pm
That is discouraging but thank you for the update.
Jan Miles
08/20/2019 — 4:28 pm
This is just a sign of the times. It’s all about power, control, and money. I hear a lot of outrage but see no changes. The abuse of power is being flaunted. There are no consequences for bad, even illegal, behavior. It’s no longer the will of the people but the will of a few. Get used to it.
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 4:36 pm
Apparently Hillary Clinton isn’t the only one with bullet proof pantsuit
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 8:49 pm
Agree 100%
George T
08/20/2019 — 4:57 pm
We need to let her go, there is no defense for the divisiveness she has created. What sane person, in her job, in this community of seniors, making the money she is, decides to wake up and file a grievance. That is just being a mean spirited child.
Minn Daly
08/20/2019 — 5:06 pm
Gene, how did she get a medical malpractice attorney to arbitrate? We need to seek legal council & end this! We need to support the two brave BOD members & reject all others who allowed Weiss to make a contract like this. Either way we the POA members are paying for her mistakes! Think about the HSV daily employees that are working under such stressful situations. This needs to stop! respectfully. Minn Daly
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 10:49 pm
I totally agree.
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 5:17 pm
The fact that Nalley has her sights set on Garrison and Podawiltz tells me that we Property Owner elected at least TWO genuinely honest and committed Directors who have the Property Owners’ interests at heart.
I know I speak for the majority of Property Owners when I say, Diana & Dick – GREAT WORK – keep up the fight – we Property Owners are here to support you 100% !!
LESLEY MUST GO!
Sick & tired
08/21/2019 — 6:39 pm
Absolutely correct.
Linda Anderson
08/20/2019 — 5:18 pm
TIME TO STAND BEHIND DICK GARRISON AND DIANA PODAWILTZ 100%.
They have demonstrated their best efforts to represent truth for HSV. Every Board member has rights to review Corporate and Business documents. As non-paid Board members, they can’t be held liable for their decisions. They must stand firm and fight against this corruption.
How can the CEO bring charges against a BOARD member???? Only way is that the majority Board members are in collusion with her obsession to remove anyone that does not agree with her. The leadership is out of control.
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 5:28 pm
What LEADERSHIP? All I see are Blind FOLLOWERS!
Joe
08/21/2019 — 7:33 am
Sadly you have a point…no one seems to be willing or able to stand up to this insane woman.
Sad, very sad.
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 5:39 pm
Linda! Speaking for my friends and neighbors, we all STAND BEHIND DICK GARRISON AND DIANA PODAWILTZ 100%.
Joe
08/21/2019 — 7:34 am
The only way to really show them you stand behind them is to be at the board meeting…posting here means nothing. Nothing.
Melvin
09/03/2019 — 5:20 am
And what good are we at the meetings? Speak and we are backed by three burly policeman
I just think our hands are tied and we need to do something but what?
George T
08/20/2019 — 7:21 pm
They were probably doing what we expect of the board. Ask some tough questions and offer some expertise to someone who needs it. Unfortunately this is a foreign experience for her, so once again, being the victim, she decides to spend her time causing disruption because that is easier than working hard for us.
Ron Williams
08/20/2019 — 5:22 pm
I’m sure we are paying for LN’s Attorney. I hope we pay for our board members too.
Annonymous
08/20/2019 — 5:54 pm
Interfering with her ability to do her job?!? Seriously? I was under the impression
she didn’t even have the ability to do it in the first place!
Maybe with all the stress of being the most detested person in the Village she’s actually cracking up! On the bright side, we provide her with excellent healthcare that covers psychiatric care. Do us ALL a favor Lesley and USE IT!
Arthur Jamison
08/20/2019 — 6:17 pm
What happen to Campagna. Wow……Did not vote for him…………
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 6:24 pm
This is no longer a FREE VILLAGE, .it a Socialist DICTATORSHIP . WE. MUST FIGHT AGAINST DICTATORSHIP. Nalley works for us so let’s use our Poa attorneys that we pay to remove all the board members except Diana and Dick let’s especially remove Nalley for lack of leadership for the property owners interest.
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Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 6:33 pm
Drug test Nalley we may be surprised it could be an answer to our questions
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 6:39 pm
Our Freedom in HSV. Has been violated. We are no longer Free under the dictatorship of Leslie Nalley (CEO ) The people of the village have spoken out time and time again . We have won over and over with majority votes . We also won with the CCI A LAW SUIT , FOR COMPLETE ACCESS TO RECORDS . Now it’s time we use our Poa attorneys that we the property owners pay for to remove all board members except Diana and Dick. We should also have Lesley Nalley ( CEO ) Removed for lack of confidence in her duties.
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 6:42 pm
Our Freedom in HSV. Has been violated. We are no longer Free under the dictatorship of Leslie Nalley (CEO ) The people of the village have spoken out time and time again . We have won over and over with majority votes . We also won with the CCI A LAW SUIT , FOR COMPLETE ACCESS TO RECORDS . Now it’s time we use our Poa attorneys that we the property owners pay for to remove all board members except Diana and Dick. We should also have Lesley Nalley ( CEO ) Removed for lack of confidence in her duties.
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 6:47 pm
This is no longer a FREE VILLAGE, .it a Socialist DICTATORSHIP . WE. MUST FIGHT AGAINST DICTATORSHIP. Nalley works for us so let’s use our Poa attorneys that we pay to remove all the board members except Diana and Dick let’s especially remove Nalley for lack of leadership for the property owners interest.
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Carole Gugel
08/20/2019 — 7:50 pm
It just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser with each passing day. Wow.
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 7:55 pm
Campagna is a huge disappointment to the people who supported him during his campaign.
Anonymous
08/21/2019 — 7:40 am
I met with Tormey during his campaign. I immediately knew I was dealing with a snake-like personality. Felt like I needed a shower after talking with him. I’m sure he’s had years of practice perfecting his skills at talking out of both sides of his mouth. His sponsors were enamored with his charms. I tried to expose the real Tormey but they would not listen. And the result is yet another turncoat. He’s a disgrace to our Community and along with the legacay BOD members needs to be removed from office.
And oh yes – I agree – Lesley must go!
George T
08/20/2019 — 8:57 pm
Very disturbing comments in the revenue section of her report.
She once again plays “victim” and says we rejected the 5% assessment increase. She takes no responsibility for doing such a poor job of spending our money on failed CMP consultation, poorly managed security plans, loans to failing restaurant management, etc. Not to mention, two tier increase went directly towards increased upper management employees and failing operations.
Mention of golf surcharge (great way to encourage more play) and more debt to cover Balboa infrastructure. Where is the reserve funding we have that should be available for this purpose? What are the true numbers of a reserve plan for this community? We supposedly tuck away $500k to $800k each of the last few years, but then when it comes to spending, we talk about loans. If we could have believed in a real reserve plan, maybe the 5% increase would have passed.
Revenue
We have four funding mechanisms: general assessments, amenity fees, service/utility usage fees and POA-owned lot sales. General assessments are insufficient and below market value. However, voters rejected giving the Board the authority to increase general assessments up to 5% annually without a property owner vote. This would have allowed a more gradual closing of the gap. We are at a crossroads between those who would like to see the community continue with its current amenity portfolio and those who feel we should be cutting expenses to include forgoing amenity replacements. The pool decision is a prime example of this ongoing debate.Due to our long-standing funding imbalance and a community divide surrounding the “right” funding level and amenity mix, staff do not recommend general or special assessment increase votes in 2020. We believe the best next step is to adequately communicate and categorize the various needs and facilitate a majority consensus, with property owner input through our committee structure. Given a clear understanding that our revenue to expense/capital gap will continue to widen by shear inflation, a vote of either a special assessment for specific uses (yet to be identified) or a general assessment increase should be considered for 2021, after the community has been well educated on the infrastructure needs, their input is gathered and a subsidy policy is established.For 2020, we are proposing a mix of amenity sponsorships, golf surcharges, long term debt (Balboa course & clubhouse) and planned water rate increases to address operating and capital needs, as well as incremental revenue from new home construction
George T
08/20/2019 — 10:10 pm
Yes, also a planned water rate increase. Haven’t had one in a couple of years, but the ones we did have two years in a row were 15-20%, so hang on to your hats. No vote or limits to deal with on this increase!
But let’s make sure we are not short on that $60,000 bonus she gets!
David Legan
08/21/2019 — 1:10 am
George, If I understand your comment, you are in favor of increased assessments. If so, I agree and thank you for taking what I see as the correct and inevitable stance. I’m a three year resident, so sort of a newbie without a depth of HSV historical knowledge. So, without accusing anyone of anything, I’d simply like to point out that our current economic model cannot work. Too many streets to maintain. Period, the end. When you want gates, the cost of them is that you pay for your own streets. The Cooper economic model of cheap dues and free golf depended on lot sales. It was almost a Ponzi scheme…with the promise of future lot sales revenues used to pay for current operations. There’s nothing wrong with a developer doing this. However, it sets up the residents for a “come to Jesus” awakening later…in this case, subsequent to the 2007-2009 meltdown. We are fortunate, actually. That meltdown cost millions of folks their homes…here, it raised our dues. NOW, we have to deal with it. If we want something, we have to pay for it…and the cost of a pool or a CMP or Lesley’s salary are symbolic, but also quite small in the big picture. We cannot market our way out of this mess. We cannot “save” our way out of it. We have to pay our way out of it.
George T
08/21/2019 — 2:15 pm
Sure Dave, with new leadership I can support an increase in assessments.
Until then, I and I believe a majority of homeowners will not. That is not a good thing, but may help drive the board to realize that they need to relook at renewing Nalley’s contract. Money talks and as we understand, there is a serious shortfall.
Attended today’s BOD meeting. $7M proposal for Balboa course and facility redo. Loans and golf surcharges will be the main contributors to payment for this. Very hard to swallow (I am an avid golfer right now) in light of all the infrastructure upkeep needed, as Dick Garrison pointed out.
Special assessments and utility charges will be coming. I believe a special assessment needs a vote, but I suspect Nalley will figure a way around that, up to and including a fear campaign like we have never seen.
David Legan
08/21/2019 — 3:01 pm
I don’t disagree. I DO wonder if taking the Village to the brink of bankruptcy is the best way to make our point. And, I feel certain that MANY Villagers simply do not understand that we cannot overcome the laws of math through opinion and dissent. THAT may be our biggest problem.
Kirk Denger
08/22/2019 — 10:28 pm
Legan, Your biggest problem without of accusing anyone of anything, are the laws of math. All lots have been sold for decades. Where is the almost Ponzi scheme? You can pay your way out of it for the symbolic Pool and CEO contract and the 7 mill proposed Balboa renovation since it is so small, surely that would not bankrupt you.
Pat McCullough
08/20/2019 — 9:41 pm
Someone needs to shake me and wake from this horrible dream. I cannot believe this is happening. The CEO is out of control and needs to be paid off and sent away. It will be cheaper in the long run. God help us!!
Anonymous
08/20/2019 — 10:58 pm
She is not quite a leader you can get behind. Is she? She just gave us the middle finger again. We will have to fix her little red wagon. Now I’m pissed, messing with our good board members Diana & Dick. Can’t quite understand what anyone sees in the woman. All I ever heard from her loyal troupe was “let the board do their job” Well? This is not how to do it….Nor for the price she comes at…my God….she should be able to do the job without needing so much help. What an Ego. She has gone off her nut. What has she done to enhance our community? She has made employment numbers soar. Way out of her league. A mere novice and incompetent at best. With a mix of evil to keep herself annoying.
Max
08/21/2019 — 7:17 am
This is a very, very strange situation where a once vibrant community is being dismantled piece by piece by a rag tag collection of crazies who are absolutely out of control….and fearless in their intimidation tactics.
Clearly another election will not solve anything. So what will? Perhaps only open rebellion.
Absent that things will continue to go rapidly downhill as they have over the past several years…with nothing to stop the decline.
Mark Meyers
08/21/2019 — 7:22 am
But what can be done, other than waiting way too long for a new election? Petitions, protests in front of the POA building, or any legal means? Anyone have any ideas??
Joe
08/21/2019 — 7:42 am
Waiting for the next election is pointless. The only way I see this working is for HSV residents to contact an attorney, arrange for an escrow account, and pay their POA dues and fees to it. Leave the money there until such time as this woman is removed.
Other forms of civil disobedience would be great…showing up at all board or POA meetings en mass, refusing to attend any and all POA sponsored events, perform boat sticker checks every day at Lake Balboa, making sure to use other amenities rather than POA ones…like the rec center, pickle ball, etc. Go somewhere else for these activities. Golf somewhere else. Squeeze these people. Look at Hong Kong…if you are mad enough you will have others who are too and who will help bring this thing crashing down.
Sadly, if you don’t take some sort of action, HSV will continue to decline as it has been doing for the last several years. Nothing will stop the decline…in fact, the whole idea of implementing the CMP will hasten the decline.
Trust me on this…if 500 people came to each and every board meeting and requested their allotted 3 minutes speaking time we could shut down these monsters.
Get out while you can or join the revolution.
Anonymous
08/21/2019 — 8:17 am
Joe, I like it.
NittyGritty
08/21/2019 — 11:12 am
Be careful what you wish for. Protesting the use of amenities is counterproductive because it leads to special assessments being imposed on ALL residents. Those who do not pay those assessments will have a lien put on their HSV real estate. Non-payment of the lien will result in a forced sale of that real estate for bottom dollar. That is not likely what we want or need.
Joe
08/21/2019 — 7:28 pm
It is exact.y what we need.
NittyGritty
08/22/2019 — 2:24 am
“exact. y”?! That says it all for you, Joe. Half baked. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Joe
08/22/2019 — 5:17 am
Drink deep or taste not the Pierian Spring.
Gary Godfrey
08/21/2019 — 8:17 am
My Lord I can not believe how this is all going. We left the Village three years ago after being there 15 years. We left for three reasons. One we were very uncomfortable with the leadership. Thought that it would change but just kept getting worse. Two price on everything just kept going up. Golf was the big reason we moved there and it the pricing just kept increasing way to much. Cheaper to pay in our home state. Three when our first grand child was born we decided to leave. We loved our time there and miss it, but its to bad that the leadership in the Village has become even worse then when we left. I know Dick Garrison and he is a good man. This is a shame. Its going to be one heck of a meeting today! Wish I could be a fly on the wall in this one.
Anonymous
08/21/2019 — 8:26 am
Ever notice that the new web site for the Village no longer states we are “The largest gated community in the country”? Could it be that possible impending financial difficulties will lead our “fearless leader” to declare one day that we must take down the gates and become a municipality? A couple of years ago, I wouldn’t have thought this possible, but with these recent revelations, I now think anything is possible. I agree with others who have said we need to form a group, send up a funding mechanism, hire an aggressive attorney, and figure out if we can depose the board, fire the CEO, and take back our Village.
Joe
08/21/2019 — 8:59 am
It is no secret that the CMP calls for the gates to come down…maybe not in so many words, but if you read it you will see that it can only work if we are not a gated community.
Trust me on this…Jason Temple let the cat out of the bag when he told Cooper that the gates were coming down…
And you notice that there is no denial of this from anyone in authority. None.
So down they will come…only a matter of time….wake up people…HSV as we know it is dying and will soon be dead….
NittyGritty
08/21/2019 — 10:46 am
Apparently you did not read Nalley’s August update, shown within this article, wherein she states that it is a FALSE rumor. Why does she not then direct arbitration at Jason Temple?!
George T
08/21/2019 — 2:01 pm
This in itself is a joke. Shows Nalley’s character. Jody Latham from CCI has said that Temple said “when the gates come down”, therefore it is not a rumor, as Nalley states, it was a fact. So, if Jody/CCI choose to be upset with Nalley, it would be justified.
She could have offered an explanation of what discussion led Jason to tell Jody that. Maybe it would be believable, maybe not.
AndyK
08/21/2019 — 9:03 am
I cannot believe how fast things are declining in HSV!
We only left a month ago and already it seems like the worst case scenarios that formed part of our decision to leave are coming true. CEO lodging grievances against elected Directors? Unbelievable!
Removal of the “largest gated community” from the website? Predictable!
I firmly believe the plan is to have the gates gone before the next BoD Election – certainly looks like its going to happen that way doesn’t it.
Gene Garner
08/21/2019 — 11:02 am
You would expect an arbitrator to be impartial, but referring to Poawiltz & Garrison as the “defendants” and Nalley as the “victim” sets the tone of the proceedings, and we now know who the “bad guys” are.
You would also think the BOD could settle their disputes in private without calling in outside help, but then again we’ve seen how they govern HSV and it’s no wonder they need help. And where is Erickson in all this commotion?
If the arbitrator decides against the “deadly duo” the rest of the Board might as well go home and let her run HSV as she wants.—Gene
AndyK
08/21/2019 — 1:32 pm
And who would notice if the rest of the board went home? She already does whatever she wants and they just nod agreement and rubber-stamp anything she puts in front of them.
Minn Daly
08/21/2019 — 1:38 pm
Gene, the victims now are not only 2 BOD members, but the entire ownership of this community! BOD meeting today was unbelievable! Continued costs for pool, Balboa renovation, or tear down, golf course reconstruction. No plan for interest cost on dollar Amy. To finance. Steve Rust was threatened with ejection for speaking up for 2 BOD members, chief of police, 4 other officers ready to eject.. Police stood ready to reject Kirk Denver as well! What a mess! Now as a member we need protection for voicing our views. Where is this going without seeking legal action against this Legacy group/CEO? Things need to change quickly! All need to resign! Respectfully, Minn Daly
Joe
08/21/2019 — 1:51 pm
To have 5 police officers total at a POA board meeting says it all. The place is toast.
NittyGritty
08/21/2019 — 4:53 pm
Not toast yet… Tellico Village went through similar a decade ago and survived.
George Sorrell
08/21/2019 — 2:06 pm
In response to Anonymous asking for a GOFUNDME, we’ve had one for this very purpose going for 2 months and hardly anyone is supporting it. The fund title is HSV Matters and the link is at the top of the home page of this excellent website. Click on “Please Donate” link at the top.
Anyone who reads this blog , please consider supporting this effort with whatever funds you deem feasible for your financial situation.
Anonymous
08/21/2019 — 2:25 pm
With all due respect George – the Go Fund Me site needs to have its goals and objectives rewritten to state specifically that it is a fund to cover the cost of attorneys that will litigate on behalf of HSV property owners to have Lesley Nalley removed from her job. Further, we need qualified attorneys to find a way to recall 5 Board members so that we can seat Directors that truly have the best interest of property owners as their number one priority.
Do this and watch how fast that fund will grow!
There is nothing I’d rather spend money on right now than a team of litigators to oust our CEO. She has done nothing but divide our Community and cause stress in our everyday lives with her ridiculous expenditures of property owners’ assessments.
If we were a real corporation she would have been fired long ago.
George Sorrell
08/21/2019 — 3:58 pm
Amen. I couldn’t agree more.
As to taking on another lawsuit, an excellent article written (I believe) by Karen Daigle Lundberg gives a good explanation of why a lawsuit is impractical. At least, that is how I would characterize what she had to say. Her knowledge skillfully paints a bleak picture of the costs involved. We do not have the funds the POA obviously has.
Unfortunately, I’ve not been able to locate the article it but it exists on the website somewhere.
Still, in my mind a lawsuit is our only choice unless the CEO should suddenly resign.
Assuming we were able to remove the CEO, an immediate need would exist to replace her with someone qualified and experienced willing to take on this rather thankless job. Hopefully for much less money I might add.
Kirk Denger
08/21/2019 — 8:28 pm
LLoyd Sherman
Sick & tired
08/21/2019 — 6:52 pm
Thank you. My words exactly.
Rober tWhipple
08/21/2019 — 3:33 pm
If I recall correctly Mr. Twiggs had the power to hire and fire built into his contract when he was CEO. I felt that was quite peculiar at the time.
Judy
08/22/2019 — 6:44 am
Other than waiting for elections, is it possible to remove Nalley’s enablers by petition or some other means? Please s’cuse – I am a newbie. Just asking.
Tom Blakeman
08/22/2019 — 6:59 am
August 22, 2019
To Board and CEO,
The Hot Springs Village people have had enough. It is time for a certain five (5) of you to resign. You know who you are. We all know who you are.
We have had enough of the lawsuits, the mis-management, the arrogance, the waste. We do not trust any of you. You are a disgrace.
None of you have shown even a modicum of common sense in your actions. We are sick and tired of you driving us down a path to financial insolvency while blaming us for not giving you even more money to squander.
You cannot make a simple budget. You do not understand basic marketing. Simple business principles escape you. All you want are more dollars to waste.
You have failed. So, resign now and save some small measure of your self respect.
Thank you,
Tom Blakeman
Village Resident
George Sorrell
08/22/2019 — 2:48 pm
I had thought the same but didn’t have the words. I would add one of the former members must carry a cart load of blame for this mess. What was Tom Weiss thinking? Does he still live in the Village and does he realize what his actions have done to us? I believe he still has a number of supporters and my only proof of his being a coconspirator is his signature on the CEO’s contract. If he didn’t believe in it, he should never have signed it.
Tom thanks again for saying what we are all thinking.
Jjflsh
08/22/2019 — 6:59 am
Looks and smells like something out of the wild west! Take out the good guys and fill in with more henchmen.
LLbean
08/22/2019 — 3:22 pm
That comment makes no sense. Go back to sleep.
Judy
08/22/2019 — 9:24 am
Tom,
If the Old Guard fails to act on your demand for resignations, is it likely they would take it seriously if several thousand like-minded villagers sign on to your letter, making it official with names, member numbers, and email addresses?
Minn Daly
08/22/2019 — 9:55 am
Tom, thank you! Yes I will sign as will my family! Financial problems really need to be addressed. What a disgrace to attempt to eject a member from a meeting who was speaking with NO malice only facts against a BOD/CEO about an action that has never been pulled in the history of HSV! Having the police chief & 4 others to assist try to eject Steve & Kirk is a disgraceful site! There was No foul language, No facts only that these BOD members allowed a CEO that supposedly reports to them take action against 2 BOD members who obviously disagree or wanted facts into a situation that affect some of the divisions within our community or dicisions to be made as a whole. This is why we members voted for them! We knew they were needed! Asking probeing questions with these BOD/CEO is obviously not wanted by them! So they allowed actions to be taken like the resist movements do when they are cornered. We need this to end! Let me know when & where will help in any way! Minn Daly
Kirk Denger
08/22/2019 — 11:19 pm
All members wishing to cast your vote to remove unlawful Board Directors will be meeting at the DeSoto club Monday, August 26, evening at 5:30. Invite all who are concerned with our current management.
David Legan
08/23/2019 — 11:09 am
Kirk, I truly do not understand your reply to me on this thread. And, apparently, you did not understand that comment of mint to which you replied. I hope you can respond without making it personal.
Anonymous
08/24/2019 — 4:03 pm
There are some very mean comments made on this thread, and if you think you will be able to lead this Village after you take over you are wrong. I think you have not displayed the kind of leadership the Village needs.
To say Lesley is trying to fire two Board members is just plain wrong. That is not what arbitration is all about. Liz said in a previous Board meeting that Diana wanted to take over some of the duties in her job description and remove some of the guard rails currently in place for our accounting systems. If the Board feels they have a right to do this, then Liz’s job description must be changed so she will not be responsible for what Diana wants to take over.
Arbitration is simply to inform all parties as to how they should go forward. Hopefully, there will be some understanding of what each of the jobs are and who is responsible for what. This is what arbitration is all about. If an understanding on the part of all parties does not occur, then perhaps further action will occur.
It is unfortunate that Frank Leeming chose to make this personnel matter public just to stir the pot of hatred that exists in the Village. I noted that the Arbitrator had to remind Dick twice that she wasn’t interested in the politics around the situation. I think that politics is what he wanted to talk about tells you where his head is. He is, obviously, not interested in working for the betterment of all the Villagers, but only those who support him. That is not how our Board is to function.
anonymous
08/24/2019 — 10:44 pm
this comment is a plant and not worth the key strokes it took to produce. I will have to remain in the background for now. This just plain crap.
Kirk Denger
08/31/2019 — 9:49 pm
Anonymous08/24/2019 — 4:03 pm is the mad queen of Alice and Wonderland.
HSVP C
09/01/2019 — 8:32 am
This was not arbitration. This was an investigation.
Frank Leeming did not make this matter public to stir anything. Frank Leeming does not believe in POA management/BOD keeping all the secrets that they do. The community has a right to know what has transpired and the low-handed techniques being used to intimidate others.
Minn Daly
08/24/2019 — 9:50 pm
To anonymous I do not know who you are, you are incorrect. Normally I would never address you, but in this case you have pulled a thread that I feel must be addressed. Mr Leeming did not create this the BOD/CEO did! Frank is a past BOD member who actually did his job, loves this community as do all of us who want this stupid stuff to stop! We live in the USA, not a socialist society. It is not the POA members who created this mess! It is the supposed adult leadership Called in title the BOD/CEO. If this was just about a staff member &. BOD member it would have been very simple to discuss rather than calling an attorney as an arbiter to solve the problem! This is about power! This is about a CEO who has taken charge of a BOD that was elected, the POA Membership who hires & fires the CEO! This is about a legacy BOD with help from Prior chair to form an alliance with CEO contract, changes that the membership does not like. This is about a CEO who does not act like the BOD is in charge of her transactions or her duties! This is about a BOD/ CEO who have crossed the line on profiling people who voted them in to perform their jobs & to be responsible to the membership not a cooperation, but a community called an association. This is about takeing of CIVIL rights, free speach. Actions current & at past meeting from a BOD member pointing a finger at a member telling this person to shut up sit down to targeting a member by chair/CEO who was factually explaining why members were upset with them, telling him to stop sit down or be ejected by a 5 member police crew! Non other than our police chief & his officers that without our dues would not have a pay check! This is about RESPECT for all not just the ones who think they are elites! They are NOT! Now let’s all take a good look hopefully to correct this before other actions are taken & membership being so disrespected This is about money being spent without any direction as to amts or membership approval! This is about a judges order not being ignored! This is about actions that were voted down still being considered & acted on by this BOD/CEO ! Monies being spent for a CMP plan, gates debacle, pool, lawsuits. This is about easements owned by Cooper that is not recognized.Not recognizing Cooper as developer. I could go on but I will stop for now ! We all have seen enough this is a division that will not be cured unless people who care for this community enter the room. With respect, Minn Daly
Gene Garner
08/25/2019 — 10:12 am
Was there a vote on Her contract, did all seven directors have their say or was this an agreement between Nalley and Weiss? The reason I ask is an arbitration agreement has to be accepted by both parties and there has to be obligations on both. From a decision by the AR Supreme Court;
“The essential elements of a contract are (1) competent parties, (2) subject matter, (3) legal consideration, (4) mutual agreement, and (5) mutual obligations.”
If the BOD voted and approved of Her contract, it looks like the directors can take her to arbitration. But why would they need to, as her boss their job is to “interfere” with her powers if they don’t approve of her performance.–Gene
Kirk Denger
09/04/2019 — 9:12 pm
Take the CEO to arbitration for violating the terms of her contract multiple violations deserving termination. Employ an unbiased arbitrator.
Jim Bryan
01/17/2020 — 4:19 pm
Is there any information regarding results of the the arbitration hearing? Does anyone have an idea of a deadline for a determination by the arbitrator?
Vicki Husted
01/25/2020 — 2:40 am
Property Owners: Tell Current BOD – Do not extend Nalley’s contract!!
I just signed the petition “Hot Spring Village Property Owners: Do not extend Nalley contract” and am urging others who share this opinion to add their names.
Our goal is to reach 100 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:
http://chng.it/sgpkBRNw5s
Have your Lot/Block/Addition ready and put it in the comments, which limits signatures to Property Owners Edited to read Addition, not Assessment