TOM BLAKEMAN, March 6, 2022
There’s been some commentary recently about the Board Discussion Sessions. ❇Apparently, one was held and only two property owners showed up. So, one Board Member posed the idea of “why bother to have them at all” (paraphrasing here). It could all be done by email [in secret].
These “discussion sessions” had originally come about to replace the once held “working sessions” that the board used to hold six or eight-plus years ago. Those “working sessions” had been canceled by a secretive board and leadership in power at the time which controlled things here for several years. The sessions were brought back only a few years ago as “discussion sessions” because our population did want more transparency in the aftermath of the Comprehensive Master Plan, aka the CMP, and a few other major and costly debacles.
That secretive, some would say “rogue” board had also canceled the once traditional property owner comment opportunity, prior to voting on matters, at every board meeting. Too much pushback at “their meeting” it seemed. They also started rigidly enforcing the “3-minute” rule for public comments at the end of board meetings. Not to mention that any such communication at these board meetings was strictly a one-way street. Property owners asked or commented, but generally got no answers- just a stonewall.
The new “discussion sessions” were intended to foster give and take communication between property owners and the board in an open forum. When these new sessions were begun though, only three board members were allowed to be present. This was because none wanted to take the chance that the session could or would be construed as a “board meeting” where some decision or other might be taken. Oooh, scary thought! Staff was not present at these sessions either. Their ‘valuable time’ simply couldn’t be wasted on such trivial pursuits.
The problem with these new sessions was that the few board members present often “copped out” that they shouldn’t comment on various topics because it was a “staff issue” and they didn’t (or, more appropriately, couldn’t) know anything about it. Other board members tended to bloviate on and on and on about basically nothing. The only significant discussion session I recall was about the Balboa Golf Course and Clubhouse (held to a standing-room-only crowd of about 100 in the DeSoto Club). Eventually, though, most property owner interest waned (too much bloviation, too little substance) and attendance fell off dramatically. Then, not too long after that Covid hit so any public sessions were not possible for a while.
Flash forward a bit, and following the seating of a new supposedly more “open” board, the sessions apparently resumed. I believe the idea was to have an actual agenda published in advance and the board have actual give and take conversations with property owners about issues of interest to the public and those scheduled to be “new business” before the board soon. These meetings were also impacted by Covid so many were virtual. This writer mistakenly thought that written input would be taken by the board beforehand and commented on or discussed at the virtual meetings. Or, that someone on the board would be monitoring a live text stream during the session and responses made. Didn’t happen for me that way (I tried). So, I lost interest in these sessions early on – why bother?
What strikes me as odd is that lately, it seems that substantial and ultimately costly projects are being floated for the first time at discussion sessions and then, almost magically, they are presented at the following board meeting as current business and voted on. All of this without much, if any, official public vetting, polling, or much of anything else. Somebody correct me if I’m mistaken (and I know you will) but I believe this is how the new trash truck deal, the FRATF, and a few other things came to be.
Now, back to the case at hand. Again, I may be mistaken, but I do not recall seeing any topic list or agenda of any kind for this most recent discussion session. I guess it is no wonder then if nobody shows up. Perhaps an advertised agenda which included issues like “nickel and diming” with excessive fees, or like ‘why are we contracting and/or leasing almost everything?’, or some other interesting topics, would have generated some attendance. Or are we now coming full circle back to secrecy? Maybe the new GM will have a fix for all this. We’ll see.
❇Note from Cheryl: Even though there may be low turnout at the actual meetings, the meeting is watched via live streaming and also hundreds may view the recordings. In addition, sometimes over a thousand folks prefer to read the transcripts we provide. This number does vary, depending on the subject matter. It is obvious that interest is higher than what it may appear to be.
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Diane Bielanski
03/06/2022 — 12:28 pm
I prefer to read the transcripts on my schedule. Thank you!
HSVP C
03/06/2022 — 12:30 pm
Thank you, Diane.
Jim Langford
03/06/2022 — 12:44 pm
Hi Tom, I for one enjoy watching the Board Working Sessions. Being an old Engineering and Maintenance guy I can evaluate the presentations and in my mind try to determine the need for the work or replacements that are being discussed. The projects that I normally question in my mind are the ones presented by Jason Temple. It seems like more times than not they are not straight forward. Examples are getting three quotes and not taking the lowest quote and he has some reason that I would question the way the initial request for quotation was presented. Another example was when he quoted a Caterpillar small track hoe against a Kubota. To me this is comparing apples and oranges. Another project is the water fall pump at Granada. The motor on the pump burned out and he said they have not been able to replace it. I don’t know the HP of the motor but most can be rewound by a motor rewind shop. I also would like the Board to get Jason to make a presentation on the black slime that we get in our water lines and commode tanks. I have talked to him about it and he says it is harmless. I know I rambled but I really do think the Work Sessions are of great value and it allows for more discussion than in the structured Board Meetings.
Missy Masterson Hale, RN
03/06/2022 — 12:45 pm
Because they are so hard to hear, I, too, prefer to read Cheryl Dowden’s painstakingly prepared transcripts. I am SO GRATEFUL TO CHERYL that she is willing to continually volunteer such copious amounts of her time to perform this invaluable service!
HSVP C
03/06/2022 — 1:02 pm
Thanks so much, Missy!
Walter Chance
03/06/2022 — 5:17 pm
I too, prefer the sessions, but again I read them here. Things are voted on that we’re under discussion. But again, magically appear as a vote at the regular meeting like the buy in fee.
Melinda Alvord
03/08/2022 — 3:56 pm
I prefer to attend in person, unless I’m out of town (which I was this past week). Next best is watching the live stream, or YouTube video and the transcriptions help fill in the gaps I might have missed or want a written record of. I do agree that the audio is lacking, even when attending in person. It’s not the quality; it’s because the participants will not pull the microphone forward and speak into it. There should be notice in advance of topics to be discussed.
Wes Smith
03/08/2022 — 8:02 pm
As a Market Research professional specialist in data collection I strongly encourage More town halls , more surveys, more polls, more discussions, greater participation among all residents in person & online… BOD request limiting committee reports to 3 minutes is very unrealistic , unfair & disingenuous
Kudos to Tom Blakeman & Cheryl Dowden for their invaluable summations
Your Opinion Counts!
LLOYD SHERMAN
03/09/2022 — 9:45 am
The GM should consider at least a quarterly “townhall” like they recently had for his welcoming. Not only was he available, but the departments were also set up to take and answer questions. Great concept and would go a long way to build back trust of management and the running of our operations.