By Andy Kramek, February 8, 2020
The following is the complete, to date, e-mail exchange between myself [Andy Kramek] and Ms. Nikki Choyce, candidate for Hot Springs Village Board of Directors. Since Ms. Choyce responded to everything after my first message by inserting comments, line by line into my original messages I have simply included her responses, as I received them. Comment on her replies to questions [2] and [3] are superfluous! [Blue highlights designate Andy Kramek and beige highlights designate Nikki Choyce.]
NOTE: As you will see, Nikki gave her permission to reproduce her reply as long as it is “posted in its entirety and without editing or censorship…”. I confirm that there has been no editing or censorship and that her replies are posted in full. All that has been done is to color the text to indicate the author. – Andy Kramek
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From: Andy Kramek
Dear Ms. Choyce,
I am assuming that, since you have not replied to my prior e-mail that somehow it did not get through the system. So I am taking the liberty of re-sending it in case it got lost somehow. Thank you for your attention.
I am a non-resident property owner (though I did live in the village for 4 years). Would you please explain:
[1] Why you fail to mention that the Committee you chair is the CMP Advisory Committee. Do you not think it is important to mention that fact?
[2] Why, in your position as Chair of that Committee did you deliberately suppress the Marketing Sub-Committee report?
[3] How you reconcile your stated intention to ‘Examine all sides of an issue, benefits and consequences, before supporting a course of action” with the suppression of the Marketing Sub-Committee report.
Thank you.
Respectfully,
Andy
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From: Nikki Choyce
Andy,
Thank you for your email. I’ve included my response below:
Would you please explain:
[1] Why you fail to mention that the Committee you chair is the CMP Advisory Committee. Do you not think it is important to mention that fact?
Response: If you were at the forum last night, I did mention it. Why is this important to you?
[2] Why, in your position as Chair of that Committee did you deliberately suppress the Marketing Sub-Committee report?
Response: as this is an open issue, I am not at liberty to discuss at this time.
[3] How you reconcile your stated intention to ‘Examine all sides of an issue, benefits and consequences, before supporting a course of action” with the suppression of the Marketing Sub-Committee report.
Response: see above response.
Nikki
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From: Nikki Choyce
Andy,
I appreciate you following up and to be honest, I did not notice in your email that you stated you were a non-resident property owner, so I’m sorry if I offended you. It was not intended. As for your other comments, please see my responses below:
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From: Andy Kramek
Dear Ms. Choyce,
Thank you for your reply. You asked why I feel your non-disclosure of your position as Chair of the CMPAC is important. The answer is very simple. It is to do with things called “Honesty” and “Transparency”.
Response: This has less to do with with [sic] the concepts of honesty and transparency and more to do with fairness and equitable treatment. Those who have a negative bias towards the CMP unfairly view me with prejudice as an off-shoot. If I am to have a meaningful conversation with anyone regarding my candidacy, I must first be evaluated on my qualifications and experience instead of my association with this committee. Instead of my role on the CMPAC being viewed as a negative, why not see the positive? I didn’t take the easy path when I decided to be more engaged in our community, I chose the difficult path of the CMP Advisory committee. That speaks to strength of character. Something we need more of on the Board of Directors.
To that end, I am posting both your reply and this e-mail on every public site that I can reach so that other property owners can be fully informed.
Response: As long as it is posted in its entirety and without editing or censorship, I have the same goal… sharing accurate information.
Since you are the Chair of that committee you must be aware that the CMP is, to put it mildly, a contentious issue for many people. That is especially true for people like me who, as non-resident property owners, have a considerable investment in the future of Hot Springs Village.
Response: As mentioned previously, yes. People have strong feelings about the CMP. There are many concerns but I’ve learned that the root cause of many of those concerns are unwarranted. Whether it is because of people who, for whatever personal reasons, feel the need to instill fear and alarm or if it’s because they haven’t spent time understanding and discussing, it’s hard to say. The CMP is essential for our community’s future. I can name at least two reasons. #1 We need a roadmap to where we want to be in 5, 10, 20 years and beyond. The CMP provides “recommendations” to help us get there. They are “recommendations” which mean we, as a community, will determine if we want to use that recommendation or not. #2 A comprehensive master plan must extend far enough into the future (at least 5 years) to provide continuity through the annual changes of Board membership. Without that continuity, we would be subject to short-sighted and misaligned objectives that could actually delay or take us off the roadmap altogether. If you really want to see Hot Springs Village be successful and protect your investment in the future, then support the goals of the CMP.
Now, whether I personally agree with the vision the CMP portrays or not is irrelevant but what is relevant is that you clearly tried to hide the information and, unfortunately, got caught red-handed and publicly.
Response: Every candidate running for the Board of Directors has their own strategies designed to win votes for themselves or take away votes from other candidates. So making a major issue of one aspect of an opposing candidate and blowing it out of proportion falls into the second strategy. I should feel flattered the other candidates feel so threatened by my candidacy that they stoop to these mud-slinging tactics.
Incidentally, as I specifically told you that I was a non-resident your implication that had I bothered to attend the forum I would have heard about it is both facile and insulting. Unfortunately for you, I have seen the video of the forum and you did NOT mention it in your opening statement. All you talked about was your experience as a Project Manager. Had Lloyd Sherman not raised the issue no-one would have known, now, would they?
Response: I apologize again for not reading that you are a non-resident property owner. It was never my intent to insult you. As for your comments above, they are not 100% factual. It is correct, that I did not mention my role as Chairperson of the CMP Advisory committee in my OPENING statement. It is incorrect that I didn’t mention it all. I spoke about it in my CLOSING statement which was appropriate for this forum and for all the reasons I mentioned above. Lloyd Sherman did mention it in one of his turns at the microphone which is his prerogative. I chose to use my time talking about reasons why I am the best Board Director candidate rather than waste time talking about why other candidates are not. I had a written prepared closing that included the disclosure of my CMPAC role. It would have been mentioned regardless and your insinuation to the contrary is an insult.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Respectfully,
Andy
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From: Andy Kramek
Dear Ms. Choyce,
Thank you for your detailed reply. I had no intention to insult you, and apologize if you read it that way.
However, I have to disagree with you.
The fact that you chair the CMP Advisory Committee is extremely relevant. In fact, it is probably the most important thing to know about you. You are not applying for a project management training position – something for which you are, apparently, well qualified – but for the Board of Directors of Hot Springs Village. Your knowledge of the Village, and your vision for the future of the Village, is what matters to property owners. Quite apart from anything else, you are trying to convince us that we should entrust you to be one of the seven people who will have a major role in shaping that future for the next three years.
So, I am left facing the fact that neither your published bio, your web page nor your spoken words made any mention that you are, in fact, the Chair of CMP Advisory Committee. Whether Mr. Sherman prompted the disclosure, or not, is irrelevant. The fact remains that the first mention made of your involvement was after Mr. Sherman raised the issue during the forum. That in itself is odd because it is, after all, a great honor and responsibility to Chair what is, arguably, the most important Committee in our community. Especially given its role in helping determining the future direction of our community. That is kind of relevant isn’t it?
Finally, you may not be aware that subsequently your Vice Chairman launched a very public, and very personal, attack on a social media site. Among other things, he accused Mr. Sherman of lying and of joining in a some sort of “crooked deal” with Mr. & Ms. Dowden for, amongst other things, publishing the fact that you chair the CMPAC. Why do you suppose he would do that if the facts were not supposed to have been kept hidden? (I know you cannot speak for the actions of others, it is a purely rhetorical question).
I do appreciate your taking the time to reply in detail. However, I must regretfully inform you that I feel that I cannot trust you, and therefore cannot possibly support you in the upcoming election.
Respectfully,
Andy
By Andy Kramek, February 8, 2020
Mark
02/08/2020 — 12:54 pm
I was standing beside bad Choyce this morning at a estate sale as she spoke loudly on her cellphone. She was referring to her candidacy and stated that she was the voice of reason in a group of candidates that want to get rid of everything and kill everyone. My mind was already made up, but witnessing this level of arrogance and ignorance was quite the reinforcement. Vote LTD.
Jayne
02/08/2020 — 1:20 pm
Thanks Andy for confronting her. I, too, messaged her. For many reasons she cannot be trusted and I hope many people realize this BEFORE they vote for her–that would be a big mistake!
Gary Puffer
02/08/2020 — 2:42 pm
First and foremost, we must maintain our infrastructure, be it roads, culvert, trails, etc. I am a resident of good standing going on 11 years. Valencia way is the main road for single-family homeowners past the condos, the Valencia Courts. There are also numerous roads that are an offshoot from Valencia Way. In all the years I have lived here, these roads were never resurfaced or maintained. There are numerous cracks on these roads but never once the POA has sent roads and street personnel to address the ongoing deterioration of these roads. I much rather see the maintenance of HSV than some new urbanism development such as the CMP. At least the POA can do is to fill and seal these cracked roads with the sealing machine that was recently discovered.
Dee Dixon
02/08/2020 — 4:41 pm
Thank you, Andy Kramek, for your time & efforts to bring more information to the electorate about this issue.
Your extra time to assist in creating this written email exchange is very helpful. Again, you are appreciated for your time & efforts.
Dee Dixon
Andy Kramek
02/08/2020 — 5:21 pm
Actually Cheryl did all the work. So thanks to her, not me.
HSVP C
02/08/2020 — 7:01 pm
Aww Shucks, Andy. Nice of you to say, but you did the work. All I did was a little copying and pasting. Thanks so much for all you do!
Bob McCleskey
02/08/2020 — 4:41 pm
Although I agree an organization the size of HSV needs a long range plan as you stated (see quote below from your statements), I disagree strongly with your summary ending statement.
“We need a roadmap to where we want to be in 5, 10, 20 years and beyond. The CMP provides “recommendations” to help us get there. They are “recommendations” which mean we, as a community, will determine if we want to use that recommendation or not.”
You are unbelievably naive to believe “…we, as a community, will determine if we want to use that recommendations or not”. Although the CMP committee may not have made any “recommendations” to date, since you have lived in HSV, how many major decisions have been submitted to the “community” for review and approval? Based on the CEO’s history of making major decisions without board approval indicates you either believe the CEO will change her mode of operation and give back some of her current approval authority or the board will revise it’s policies. I don’t see that happening should you be elected to the board.
Robert Busse
02/08/2020 — 8:37 pm
Andy, that you for sharing you verbatim correspondence with Ms Choyce. It is very enlightening and clearly shows that her ideas and thoughts about our Village and its path forward differ greatly from a very large segment of our membership. To me it clearly shows that she has well defined ideas and principles and definitely is not willing to consider or accept other folks ideas or thoughts. Kind of resembles the way our CEO thinks and operates.
I had an opportunity to be in a small group meeting the day before the Forum and Ms. Choyce flatly and emphatically denied having anything to do with the quashing of the CMP Marketing subcommittee’s findings. We all knew that was not true but did not belabor the point.
In our group meeting with Ms Choyce she was asked if she had ever been a member of any BOD at any time previous. She indicated that yes she had been a vital part of a Project Managers Association or group a few years ago that had done some important and worthwhile work. But the next night at the Forum she stated that she had never been on a BOD before.
Someone who can not tell the truth is not the kind of person we need to add to our Leadership. We have had and still suffer from those type of folks who can’t seem to want to be truthful to those they deal with.
Karen Daigle Lundberg
02/08/2020 — 10:31 pm
Robert Busse – Thank you so much for pointing out something that I saw but has now been changed on Nikki Choyce’s LinkedIn account. I have done a lot of research and exchanged emails with Nikki regarding her education and her resume. A few days before the forum, on Nikki’s LinkedIn site, she stated that she was on the Board of Directors (President) of PMI – Fort Worth Chapter. When she answered the question at the forum where she was asked if she had ever been on a Board of a corporation, and she said no, I assumed she was skirting the issue that possibly PMI – Fort Worth Chapter was not a corporation. Unless she has changed it again today, you will see that she is listed twice as the President of PMI – Fort Worth Chapter. I did not bring this up because it would have been my word against hers since it was no longer on LinkedIn. Thank you for catching that also, Robert. I have also exchanged emails with Nikki, and I will tell you that in response to my question to her about a B.S. from Baylor Dallas that she has in some of her bios, she told me that it was Baylor Dallas College of Dentistry that no longer existed. She stated that it was now part of the Texas A&M system. She pointed out to me that she did not see the other candidates’ degrees mentioned, and she did not feel her degree was important to mention due to “word constraints,” but it was her recent experience that was important. When I questioned her about a dental degree, she did not respond. She also did not respond to my latest round of questions. Anyone who examines Nikki’s LinkedIn resume will see not only errors about her Presidency of PMI – Fort Worth Chapter, but they will also see basically an empty shell of a resume. It is bloated and embellished. Look at the dates, look at the fact that there are no company names listed who she contracted with as a self-employed project manager. More importantly is there is nothing in that resume that comes anywhere close to having the skills or experience to be on the HSVPOA Board of Directors. In fact, I would like to challenge Nikki Choyce to publicly post a true and factual resume with names of companies she has contracted with, correct dates, and listing specific skills in budgeting, marketing, and leadership that qualifies her to be the type of Board member HSV needs, and who LTD are. Let’s see what we get back. I will personally email her, but in the meantime, I suggest everyone look at her LinkedIn account and her other bios.
Bob Mollerberg
02/09/2020 — 10:29 am
Karen,
Thank you Karen. The research you have done on this candidate is most helpful and crucial to making sound decisions for the BOD. Have you or anyone done similar research on the other BOD candidates? Maybe there are some facts out there but all I am able to find are “sales pitches” that tell me just what I want to hear.
Bob Mollerberg
Andy Kramek
02/09/2020 — 10:40 am
Karen,
Ms Choyce makes a big deal out of her project management qualifications and experience. However, as far as I can determine her primary involvement in project management was as the author of training courses for project managers and all her experience is largely theoretical.
Also, acquiring a PMP qualification is not exactly difficult – here are the requirements:
[1] Register to become a member of the Project Management Institute (PMI)®.
[2] Take our PMP certification training course to satisfy the required 35 hours (PDUs) education requirement.
[3] Submit your PMP exam application online.
[4] Schedule your exam with Pearson VUE.
[5] Take and Pass the PMP Exam.
Notice that there is no requirement whatsoever for any actual experience as a Project Manager!
As it happens I WAS a project manager for a major industrial company in the UK back in the late 1980’s and was, for a time, Chairman of the West Midlands Region of the Association for Project Management – the largest professional body for project management in Europe. This body has four levels of membership, Student, Associate, Full and Fellow. The US PMP would qualify someone only for “Associate” status as you need a minimum of 3+ years practical experience for “Full” and 5+ years experience for “Fellow”. All experience must be in a recognized project management role (working on a project management team alone does not count). For what it may be worth I actually did achieve the “Fellow” level.
So, apart from anything else, I am afraid I don’t put much value on her “Project Management” credentials either.
Karen Daigle Lundberg
02/09/2020 — 6:52 pm
Andy Kramek, you described perfectly exactly what I saw on her resume. I likened it to a pretty painted picture. I do not scoff at Nikki’s certification, but I do believe that it is fabricated. I have challenged her to produce a real resume with real references, and so far I have received nothing. Possibly she will be prepared with those tomorrow. As I stated, I do not take away from the fact that she is a certified PMP; I just see nothing in her career that would make her a good Board candidate. Also, in her bio, she states that since she owned her own business, she is adept at budgeting and marketing. If you look at the companies Nikki was registered with, you will find that they do the marketing. She is just one of the course teachers, and these companies supply her with customers. As far as budgeting….another embellishment. “Keeping the books” for your own company is a far stretch from budgeting matters on a Board of Directors. I see absolutely nothing that qualifies Nikki for a Director position on the Board of HSV, but, again, this is my humble opinion. Everyone is entitled to make their own choice, but we MUST get it right this time, and that is by voting LTD.
Bob Mollerberg
02/09/2020 — 9:03 pm
Karen,
Do you have “real resumes with real references” from LTD? If so please forward me copies.
Thank You,
Bob Mollerberg
Karen Daigle Lundberg
02/10/2020 — 1:00 am
Bob, to address both of your questions to me, I will answer them both here. You are correct that I have done extensive research into Nikki Choyce’s qualifications for Board Director. Isn’t that what we are supposed to do before electing a Board member, especially under the circumstances HSVPOA is in now? I have challenged Nikki Choyce to present a “real resume” with “real references.” Do you have a problem with me requesting such an important document? Why would you ask if I have the other candidates’ resumes? I am not the keeper of the resumes. I just like clarification when I see a resume as full of fluff as Nikki’s is. Forgive me for my due diligence, but that is what I believe in….due diligence.
As I sat here tonight thinking about how to address your question regarding my research on the other candidates, up popped an article from Phil Lemler that perfectly describes how I feel about the LTD candidates. Anything I have to say would be a duplicate of what Mr. Lemler states about the LTD candidates.
As far as the candidate, Kirk Denger, I had a telephone conversation with Kirk over this campaign and have known Kirk for two years. I do not feel that Kirk has any more qualifications to be on the Board than Nikki Choyce does, and, as a friend, I very gently tried to tell him such and asked him to please withdraw in order to not dilute the vote. The response I received from Kirk Denger was, and I quote, “The Hot Springs Village People are TRASH.” He then called me a liar when I told him that I was not in the HSV People group. So a Board candidate that speaks to me like that, I really have nothing more to say about.
Lastly, as far as “real resumes” and “real references” of the other Board members, it really is not my job to keep them, so, no, I do not have them in my possession. But you can bet your bottom dollar that if you walk up to Lloyd Sherman and ask for his, he will be able to reach in his briefcase and hand it to you. That was settled last year.
However, I know that you are not seriously asking me if I have their “real resumes” or “real references.” You have an agenda, and I can tell you that a person who has no history of what she has done for HSV, other than trying to suppress a report which several people worked very hard for months on, has a lot more to prove than people who have been here in the Village, one being on the Board already, and we have seen what they have accomplished for the Village. Nikki Choyce has a lot to prove, and so far her track record is not favorable to her at all. Then to put campaign biographies out there and have resumes on LinkedIn that are empty shells makes it even worse. So how about you ask Nikki Choyce for a resume that actually has some facts in it and not a bunch of fluff and present it or have her present it.
I hope that sufficiently answers your questions.
Bob Mollerberg
02/10/2020 — 11:17 am
Karen,
I went back and reread my earlier posts. I can now see that my query was poorly worded. I was trying to be specific in my request, but it came across as sarcastic. I sincerely appreciate your research & value your opinion. Please accept my apology.
Best regards,
Bob Mollerberg
Karen Daigle Lundberg
02/10/2020 — 2:16 pm
Bob Mollerberg, No apologies necessary, but thank you. We are all doing our best to make sure we get the candidates right this time. I firmly believe that LTD is our best choice. Have a good day.
Geoffrey H.
02/11/2020 — 10:34 am
LTD will win their seats on our BOD come March. I have no doubt.
Anybody and everybody who supports LTD needs to drive this election to its proper conclusion by talking to and suggesting to their neighbors and friends to vote for LCD.
We need to drive the point home that WE ARE DONE with the likes of Leslie Nalley, the legacy BOD members and turncoat Tormey. Let’s send them a message just like we did in the Articles and Declarations vote.
This time will be different. When WE speak and elect LTD, we will ACTUALLY have 4 like-mined voices on the BOD representing the wishes of property owners.
The days of Leslie and her cronies and puppets are fast coming to an end.
But I caution everyone, do not be surprised if the legacy BOD members and turncoat Tormey extend Leslie’s employment contract for another 5 years with additional T’s & C’s that will make it very expensive for property owners to remove her. Be advised. These current players are fully capable of inflicting a parting HURT on HSV before the newly elected members take their seats.