Many of us have serious concerns regarding the actions of HSVPOA.
As previously stated, we have retained legal counsel to investigate the viability of taking legal action against HSVPOA Board of Directors, management and the Architectural Control Committee. People in these positions need to understand the personal liability of their actions. We have hired Legacy Law Group to conduct this research.
The Go Fund Me funds collected by Karen Daigle Lundberg will be applied towards this study. The rest of the cost of the investigation will be covered by myself and a small group of property owners. At this point in time, we are not asking for further donations.
Presently, we are not at liberty to discuss the details of Legacy’s inquiry.
I would like to thank Karen for her help in raising these funds and to all donors for their generosity and support.
— Tucker Omohundro, HSV Property Owner, October 5, 2019
John Dethardt
10/05/2019 — 6:01 pm
Well someone has a set of balls, and will fight the queen. You have my support
Anonymous
10/05/2019 — 6:13 pm
Thank you ALL for checking into this and fighting for OUR rights!!!!!
Anonymous
10/05/2019 — 6:15 pm
Thank you so much. If additional funds are needed just put out the word.
Andy Kramek
10/05/2019 — 6:38 pm
Add my name to the list of those willing to contribute when needed.
Fred Hale
10/05/2019 — 6:42 pm
Thank you, Mr. Omohundro. I appreciate your leadership.
Mary Odom
10/05/2019 — 6:52 pm
Thank you so much for pushing onward with this. Please let us know if you need more funds
Cindy Anderson
10/05/2019 — 7:04 pm
we will try to donate as we can–let us know
Tony Galbraith
10/05/2019 — 9:16 pm
We will Donate!
Nancy Burleson
10/05/2019 — 7:10 pm
I stand ready to contribute when the need arises. Thank you, sir’
Walter Chance
10/05/2019 — 7:25 pm
Thank you!
Minn Daly
10/05/2019 — 7:37 pm
Tucker, Karen & group! Thank you for takeing up this fight. Let all know if you need assistance in this fight. Respectfully, Minn Daly
Vicky Didion
10/05/2019 — 7:48 pm
Thank you, thank you, thank you! My husband and I will be happy to contribute as well. Just let us know when.
Let’s all pray for a positive outcome !
Anonymous
10/05/2019 — 7:53 pm
Thank you so much Tucker. We had pledged to Karen so just say the word and our donation will be sent to help cover your cost.
Lloyd Sherman
10/05/2019 — 8:53 pm
This is what has been needed for a long time. Legal counsel on what can actually be done instead of some group of self-appointed legal experts telling us how to proceed. Good luck and God Bless. Information is the power that will drive this machine.
Anonymous
10/05/2019 — 8:54 pm
Tucker, Sonja I will be happy to donate if further funds are needed. Thank you for what you are doing. George and Sonja Chelf
Jackie Cutler
10/05/2019 — 9:40 pm
Great! We need help and lawsuits are probably one of the main ways to get their attention and perhaps make change. We will donate The Cutlers
Pat McCullough
10/05/2019 — 9:50 pm
feel free to contact me when you need additional funds.
Minn Daly
10/05/2019 — 10:53 pm
Tucker this is very much needed, thank you! Minn Daly
Anonymous
10/06/2019 — 12:12 am
Behind you 100% Tucker. You have been in HSV for over 30 years and have the historical perspective to know just how out of whack things are with our current bankrupt leadership. You have my full support and resources to prosecute the chicanery that has been going on the past two plus years. This Village will not heal until LN is off her self appointed throne. Jeff
Anonymous
10/06/2019 — 1:50 am
I’m in Tucker. No other choice. Mike F
Clyde Berry
10/06/2019 — 7:41 am
Thanks Tucker. You can expect help from me, your mailman, when needed.
Al Lipson
10/06/2019 — 8:01 am
It will be interesting to see when they start throwing each other under the bus. They need to be held PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for their actions.
Linda Forry
10/06/2019 — 8:41 am
Thank you Tucker
Terri and Brian
10/06/2019 — 9:22 am
Thank you Tucker and to everyone for taking a stand. You have our full support and we will contribute more as needed.
Anonymous
10/06/2019 — 9:38 am
Tucker my long time friend – you have my friends & family’s support! Your courage and commitment to champion the voices of Property Owners is as evident as the quality of your home construction. We are going to bury you with donations to this cause should you find the need for funding.
Further, I would encourage you to run for a BOD seat in the next election. You will win by a landslide!
Lesley – when you read this thread, this is how REAL LEADERS gain trust and respect! They listen to Property Owners and they act upon their wishes instead of arrogantly ignoring them and pressing on with their own personal agenda. Your days in HSV Ms. Nalley are numbered! If you haven’t already started, I would advise you to start looking for employment in another line of work as your attempt at pretending to be a leader here in HSV has FAILED MISERABLY!
Bill &Nita Sisul
10/06/2019 — 2:35 pm
Thanks Tucker, let us know when you need help.
Property owner since 2006
10/06/2019 — 6:05 pm
Tucker,
Sadly our leadership is so out of touch with reality that they believe it is a small number of property owners who are totally dissatisfied with both the direction our leadership is headed. They are Wrong.
Property Owners are fed up, fed up with the inappropriate funding of projects; projects that we don’t need, funded with money that we don’t have. Property owners are sick of the manipulation of the governing documents and Lesley’s contract to insure that their death grip on the Village is difficult and costly to eliminate. Their final hail Mary prior to the new BOD members taking their seats to put language that clearly is procedural in a contract should be investigated as collusion and those responsible held accountable.
In all of my time in HSV I have never seen so many of the silent majority stepping out of their comfort zone and coming forward to peacefully and respectfully show their disapproval and lack of trust in our POA Management team and the old guard BOD members. I have never heard of so many of my friends and neighbors trying to make the difficult decision to stay and fight or give up and get out of our beloved community.
Of course giving up plays right into their hands. A constant churn rate has the benefit of bringing in people who are unaware of the issues that we are facing, thus reducing those aware and trying to rectify the situation.
An example of how out of touch Lesley and management was demonstrated by a comment one of them made at the last BOD member that whenever an unpopular project like the pool or Balboa club is brought forward a lot of property owners show up at the meeting upset. Historically they feel people will get over it, that it’s OK for the GM/BOD to move forward regardless because people will calm down. News flash, that is no longer happening. Instead with each flagrant act the discontent grows and is finally snowballing out of control.
Why else would so many property owners feel it a good idea to move forward with legal counsel to determine what we can do to stop our out of control leadership.
Firing Dick Garrison, moving forward with spending and development plans that property owners do not support, and ignoring property owners opinions is causing more distress and uncertainty.
Instead of taking steps to stop and measure the pulse of the community our BOD and Lesley march forward and ignore our communities reality. They continue to change the rules as they go to protect them, not the community. I predict that they are already rewriting the governing documents to exclude former BOD members who have been dismissed from the BOD to run again. That is how dire our situation is.
Personally I was disappointed that the News media reported that property owners won, as the Balboa Project was tabled. There was no victory at the last meeting. Just a delay of the inevitable and a complete ignorance of the elephant in the room, that passive property owners are fed up and not going to sit by and take it any more. More frustrating that our leadership is totally ambivalent to the state of our community’s health and well being. Lesley is tearing our community apart.
She woke up a sleeping giant, unwittingly Lesley will be responsible for her own demise, as more and more property owners want her resignation. I’m not talking by violence, which is totally unacceptable, I’m talking by property owners uniting and spending whatever money it takes and coming together to organize election of leadership that will right the ship and win back the trust of the community.
The results of November’s election were loud and clear by property owners, we do not TRUST Lesley and the BOD with more money. Until we get leadership that we do TRUST and who acts on behalf of the property owners I’d agree with the person who stated, property owners will not approve one dime more in assessments and there will be battle to vote down any special assessments. It the rumor is that Lesley want’s to bankrupt us so that the gates have to come down and / or we have to approve an assessment then that is not the way to achieve that goal. A change of leadership and a change of direction will.
Decisions aren’t being made on data, Lesley’s performance objectives are primarily subjective except for this nonsensical measurement of “increasing owners’ equity”. This basically means the more that Lesley spends on projects like the pool and the Balboa Club the better her performance review will be and the higher her increase and bonus.
It matters not, if we have money to fund these projects.
It matters not, if property owners agree with the spending.
It matters not if Lesley skews reports on our financial viability and spins our financial health despite the deficit spending, quarter after quarter, year over year.
It matters not that we have had and continue to experience a revenue deficit, primarily because of the loss of assessment revenue. That was caused by a flawed model, that to this day has not been resolved. It as caused by the POA choosing to put all of their eggs in the NRPI basket. We have to stop resolving the underlying problem as opposed to trying to plug the hole in the dam.
It matters not that the money from escrow from two-tier provided a temporary influx of funds into our bank account during the time that Lesley stepped into her position. It was not Lesley Nalley saving us from bankruptcy. It was a temporary blip in the cash flow. It’s all gone and we continue to spend like there is no tomorrow.
It matters not that it’s obvious that we can’t spend our way out of a financial deficit. Our highest budget line item is employee salaries. Yet we continue to increase our top heavy organization with people who put a drain on our expense but do not do anything to show a return on investment. We continue to pour money into assets that are underutilized because we are so far over capacity that our demand will never catch up.
It matters not that the property owners feel they are not being heard regarding the direction of HSV’s future spending and development.
The BOD and Lesley’s attitude has eroded all hope of that anything short of legal action can stop the fiscally irresponsible spending and the lack of quality leadership.
Thank you for taking action to find a way to stop the madness and save our village.
For Lesley it’s just one paragraph on her resume to get her to her next power position.
For property owners, it’s our home and we don’t take her action lightly. We planned our whole life to retire in our dream community. Now it’s becoming our nightmare.
Cherri Childers
10/09/2019 — 9:44 am
Thank you for a well written and precise understanding of what the Village people are saying. I will be more than happy to contribute to the funds when that time comes.
Vicki Husted, Newcomer
10/06/2019 — 7:46 pm
Property owner since 2006,
Thank you for a well-written comment that reflects my and many, many other people’s thoughts.
Tucker,
Thank you for your leadership in this, and be assured that whatever support you may need, financially or otherwise, will be immediately and overwhelmingly forthcoming. The awakening of HSV property owners includes newcomers as well as long-term residents, and we stand behind your efforts–united. Thank you….
Concerned employee
10/06/2019 — 8:55 pm
I am a employee of HSV… I can’t publish my name because I have to support my family. I support Tucker and his effort to investigate the viability of taking legal action against HSVPOA Board of Directors, management and the Architectural Control Committee. I love our Village.
Concerned Realtor
10/07/2019 — 8:08 am
I am a long time realtor here….I can’t publish my name because I have to support my family. Filing lawsuits and setting up monopolies is bad for property values.
Robert Busse
10/07/2019 — 3:39 pm
Concerned Realtor, you don’t think several policemen standing outside the BOD meeting doors and then moving inside when the meeting starts, to be ordered upon people who say things or clap in support of comments that the Board or CEO don’t like to hear hurts property value? Or how about voting off the BOD an elected director that was doing what the voters wanted, asking tough questions and wanting things to change, is going to help? What about the BOD/CEO conducting many secret business meetings before notifying the membership of plans to spend millions of dollars, take on large debts and apply an outrageous sir charge on all golf, with no member approval. That’s really not going to help either.
Theses are just a few of the latest bonehead moves by our BOD/CEO with no help or involvement of members. They did these things on their own. So blaming members for negative publicity/actions is not appropriate. Our Leadership causes the large majority of the negative problems by their own irrational decisions/actions, not the owners.
Cindy Anderson
10/15/2019 — 6:05 pm
Concerned Realtor, I agree with Robert. It is nalley and the not for us bod brought on the negative vibes in the Village. Believe me I understand about keeping your family afloat. We did it on our own with just a one person income in the family. Get you Realtor friends together and talk to nalley about bad vibes she can change this in a heartbeat.
Stuart
10/08/2019 — 5:31 am
Who cares what you think about lawsuits? Your silly post here won’t change a thing. Concentrate on your real estate business rather than posting inane anonymous comments that are totally meaningless and irrelevant.
Minn Daly
10/07/2019 — 4:08 pm
Mr. Busse. Thank you for starring what majority of owners in HSV think. Amazed that realtors aren’t alarmed by actions that take place especially because BOD/CEO actions have affected this market. We have people leavening high taxed states to relocating all around us but the issues with lawsuits with COOPER, spending habits of BOD/CEO, financial reports & how members are treated that go viral, will not come here until this is resolved. When the population sees that CEO stands with CNU & HSV logo they are turned off by getting involved with ownership thinking this is a New urbanism community. This community was always marketed as a GATED community. BOD should have thought about the community & the bad choices they have made that has cost us revenue. Respectfully, Minn Daly
HSVP C
10/08/2019 — 12:41 pm
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Mary Szczepaniak
10/09/2019 — 11:13 am
Why the ACC? Aren’t they just carrying out ghe board directives?
NittyGritty
10/11/2019 — 11:20 pm
Thank you, Mary … As you point out, the ACC goes by the rules given to them … (& in my experience, they do it well & very kindly). Who will want to VOLUNTEER like they do and be subjected to this lawsuit?
Anonymous
10/09/2019 — 10:58 pm
I predict this action is going down the long drawn out dead end road that so many other things, people keep proposing, have done. Interested to see if all your donations were wasted.
I suggest everyone better be looking to see who is running and try to get some decent people on the board.
I just trying to decide if I want to vote for a candidate that thinks he’s so important that he needs a campaign manager, a campaign committee and contributions from everyone to run his campaign.
Get real.
Mark
10/10/2019 — 5:40 am
I suggest you take a refresher course in writing.
Lorri Street
10/10/2019 — 1:39 pm
Dear Anonymous…I can attest that the We the People fundraising campaign did indeed result in a very definite WIN for HSV Property Owners who both donated generously and showed up in droves to vote NO last November 30th! I’ll go out on a limb here and say I bet not 1 Property Owner who contributed to the WTP Vote NO campaign believes their money was “wasted.” It takes money to push back against LN and her regime. So may I suggest you either put up or shut up!
HSVP J
10/10/2019 — 6:18 pm
Dead On, Lorri.
Minn Daly
10/10/2019 — 3:14 pm
Lorrie Street agree totally with you on your response to anonymous! Some people do not have the courage to use their name! We the people do & we will pay the cost for takeing our community back. Minn Daly
Anonymous
10/10/2019 — 5:08 pm
Not everyone that voted no was associated with We The People and definitelynot everyone that voted no donated.
I did notice your signs and money invested, Lori, didn’t get you elected.
HSVP C
10/10/2019 — 5:41 pm
Lorri didn’t get who elected?
Anonymous
10/10/2019 — 5:10 pm
BTW, I’ll be watching to see what the legal action accomplishes. Nothing so far.
HSVP C
10/10/2019 — 5:41 pm
And just what would you expect this quickly?
Andy Kramek
10/11/2019 — 9:02 am
Replying to anonymous trolls is a waste of time. Here is the Wikipedia definition of a troll – see how it fits these anonymous posts:
“In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses and normalizing tangential discussion, typically for the troll’s amusement or a specific gain.”
Vicki Husted
10/11/2019 — 12:34 pm
Bingo, Andrew! Right on the mark!
Anonymous
10/12/2019 — 9:26 am
So you donate money to retain a lawyer to look into bringing a lawsuit against the POA. If a lawsuit is filed then it will take some serious money to fight a long drawn out legal battle ($1,500 donated so far won’t ever be a drop in the bucket). The POA will fight the lawsuit with your assessment money.
So in essence you will be paying lawyers to sue the POA and your assessment money will be paying for the POA to fight the lawsuit. You’re paying both sides of this legal battle.
Lesley Nalley (POA legal team) could bankrupt the village using your money to fight you. Better think this through!
Mike
10/13/2019 — 5:03 am
Listen up troll boy. Anything is better than the status quo. Even your silly scenario. Get over yourself.
George Sorrell
10/15/2019 — 9:52 am
To Anonymous:
What you say is true regarding the double billing. It is unfortunate anytime we must sue our own organization. However, there are times when that is the only alternative.
Bottom Line:
No one can unseat the CEO except the BOD who signed her contract. This made her almost immune to removal. The contract calls for a super majority to remove the CEO. That means, 6 out of 7 must agree. Given the makeup of individuals that sit on the current board, it is a safe bet they would never agree on a super majority decision to remove her from her job.
That leaves us with a legal remedy as the only possible alternative. However, no one would responsibly enter into a lawsuit without a valid cause.
As I see the effort begun here by Mr. Omohundro, first it must be determined if there is a legal option. It would take a team of lawyers to dig through all the rules and actions of this BOD that may find an infraction warranting a lawsuit. No one would go into court with a complaint that we just don’t like how things are going. It is going to require finding a reason or infraction that can be proved and is worth bringing suit.
Unless Mr. Omohundro already has cause we don’t know about, the first step must be (as I see it) to seek a way into this maze and find a cause. That would take a team of lawyers and money to pay for their time. I’m assuming we are in that phase right now thanks to his decision to do so.
In the end, if no cause can be identified then I can’t imagine there could be any further legal action taken. Were that to be the case, I suggest prayer. Unless the CEO resigns along with her BOD supporters, we are stuck for at least 2 more years behind the CMP freight train.
We lost ground when they removed one of the members. Even if we reelect him next year, we lost a seat at the table and that cost us the majority we could have had in this next election. Ironic isn’t it. Losing that seat cost us another year before we can gain a majority vote. Of course, that will all depend upon who we elect to the board.
These are just my thoughts on taking legal action.
Anonymous
10/17/2019 — 9:33 pm
Mr. Cooper assured me that if his team found anything that he would share it with us. To my knowledge they have found nothing that would warrant a lawsuit. I just think the lawsuits have been a waste of time and money.
Two tier suit, Gene Garner suit, etc. What have they accomplished?
John Christopher Sowers
10/24/2019 — 3:45 am
What were your responsibilities as an executive in the Cooper corporation? Is CCI providing funding support for this legal action?
W B Selmsn
01/17/2020 — 4:03 pm
I agree, we need legal oversight in many areas of this administration. We are in support of you and all others concerned about the success of OUR village community