Problems With Broadband and Cellular in
Hot Springs Village
In Hot Springs Village we have a serious problem with a lack of Broadband and Cellular service. The principal issue we face is little or no competition or regulation combined with our hilly and wooded terrain and a very large service area. This is further compounded by an older population many of whom may not have even had a working telephone in their homes as kids. Furthermore, apparently no one in HSV has ever made a concerted effort to correct our situation. Now we are so far behind the curve it isn’t even funny. Just think how life would be if some sections of the Village had no electric power or no running water or sewer. No one would have bought homes. This is where we are heading in the new 21st century technological age we live in. Those retiring baby boomers won’t come. It may have already been a factor in that there have not been more than 50 new home permits here each year for the last ten years. And we wonder why.
HSV Broadband & Cellular Problem Not Unique
We are not unique with this issue as many rural areas suffer with us. But, most rural communities do not contribute hundreds of millions in economic impact to their surrounding metro areas every year either. I’d say it is time we wake up and get the problem fixed. Today we live in an age, like it or not, where 8 year-olds have Apple iPhones and their parents are routinely ditching their cable TV and streaming everything “over the top” via their high-speed internet connection. Soon many communities will have 5G LTE cellular with the capability of streaming high-speed data with no wires or cable at all. But here we are with many parts of our Village having no cell phone signal and/or no cable and/or no high-speed data service or anything from anyone.
Not Enough Being Done
Yes, it won’t be an easy process to force the large carriers into extending any services. And there may be costs involved which the Village must bear. I can only say that doing nothing never solved anything. Also, had we not squandered millions in recent years on un-needed and un-wanted projects like CMP and Declarations Vote we might have a few dollars to spend. Sure, the CMP mentions the issue but only because a few residents like me brought it to their attention and forced the issue. Someone noted on Nextdoor that our POA has a working group addressing the issues noted herein. The only effort I know of currently being made is a $50,000 budget item this year for getting serviceable Wi-Fi in our public buildings. This is something that should have been done 15 years ago. At the February 20, 2019 Board Meeting and in the Hot Springs Village Voice Newspaper, Tuesday February 19th, there was mention of Ritter Communications laying fiber lines to get better broadband to commercial businesses in Hot Springs. Other than that – and it has nothing to do with the Village – I’ve heard nothing of merit from anyone in the three years I’ve lived here. That is despite various articles in the paper going back six or more years claiming this and that which have never materialized.
World Going to 5G LTE
Some are confusing 5GHz with 5G LTE. All newer internet Wi-Fi routers, like the one you may have in your home, communicate on two bands: 2.4 GHz and 5GHz. This is not 5G LTE. These routers connect to the internet via cable or other means and then broadcast and receive signals simultaneously on both frequencies. The 5GHz is faster than the 2.4GHz but the 5GHz does not penetrate walls, etc as well as the 2.4GHz. So, some folks will be using one or the other depending on location of their router, how many rooms the signal must cover, etc. What we are talking about here is your Wi-Fi signal not your cellular service protocol.
5G LTE – Latest and Greatest
5G LTE is the latest and greatest service level being implemented now by all the cellular phone carriers worldwide. The name stands for 5th Generation Long Term Evolution. What we have now in the Village is 4G LTE which drops off to 3G and 2G depending upon certain variables and locations. There is something like a 10 fold (or more) increase in data speed, capacity, and range with 5G LTE over the older protocols.
If implemented here, we would be able to get reliable high-speed broadband service over the cellular data network. We can’t do that today. The good part is that there would be no need for ATT or Suddenlink or anyone else to run wires to your home from their system. There would not be a need for a satellite dish on your roof either. You could do everything from the cellular signal which your devices (you would need new ones) pick up. However, the first order of business is to increase the numbers of towers and their height and range. Just doing this, even before the rollout of 5G LTE would also help solve our current poor cell service coverage with the existing 4G LTE signals.
Need Minimum Speed of 75 Mbps
Keep in mind that the fastest 4G LTE is currently maxing out at something like 30 Mbps (Megabits per second). That’s in perfect conditions. If you can get that, it is marginally enough to stream some video like Netflix but the typical user sees only 10 to 15 Mbps which isn’t enough for most uses, particularly large screens and simultaneously running other demands like your email or multiple TVs.
For today’s home systems the broadband data speed needs to be at least 75 Mbps and most people are opting for 100 to 200 or more. This is on conventional cable systems or ATT U-verse type systems. In some
Having said all this, the ideal situation would be to have
Adverse Effects of 5G LTE?
Some claim that the 5G LTE frequencies may have adverse effects for people health wise. I am not familiar with the problem, if there really is one, but just like any new technology, there are always those who oppose. Some reasons are valid, some not. I do know of people who to this day still refuse to use any cellular phone or wrap their heads in tin foil if forced to speak on one. My guess is we will all die of global warming first. But that’s just me.
The fact is that the world, not just the United States, is going to 5G LTE technology and it may well be the most cost effective solution to our issues in the Village. Verizon Wireless has already turned on what they call 5G Home in certain parts of Houston, Sacramento, Los Angeles and Indianapolis. ATT already has their mobile 5G network in parts of a dozen cities including Atlanta, Charlotte, Louisville, Oklahoma City and others. So, ask yourself, what’s wrong with Hot Springs Village? How do we get on the list?
Return on Investment Should not be an Excuse
As to ROI (return on investment): Everyone likes to use that as an excuse for why we don’t have what we should have here in the Village – insufficient ROI. I would submit to you that there is no quantifiable ROI for most public service projects, basic infrastructure services
No Unsolvable Problems
There is no problem that is not fixable. We just need to get started. Continuing to wait will only prove more costly down the road.
Written by: TOM BLAKEMAN
Editing, Formatting & Photos by: CHERYL AND JOE DOWDEN
Editor’s Note: This article is a compilation and rewrite of several comments originally made on Nextdoor by Tom Blakeman and then edited and reposted with permission on https//hotspringsvillagepeople.com
HOT SPRINGS VILLAGE, February 2019
Miriam Shively
02/23/2019 — 11:39 am
Thank you for a succinct explanation of status quo v. future implications. Please cc to Voice as letter or article. And, everyone, please understand the impact of what Mr. Blakeman is saying.
HSVP C
02/25/2019 — 8:09 am
Thank you, Miriam, for your support and comment.
Anonymous
02/25/2019 — 8:03 am
Without high speed broadband the village will not grow. Currently no private company sees it as a profitable venture now or in the future.
Does the Village have resources to build it?
Our infrastructure is failing, We are committed to providing utilities and roads to all 34000 lots. We continue to lose non-resident revenue. Some actually believe our problems were all caused by incompetent management and the Board of Directors.
I think the problems were caused by CCI who sold all the lots and bailed out.
HSVP C
02/25/2019 — 8:08 am
Thank you for your viewpoint and support.
dennis simpson
02/25/2019 — 11:05 am
In May of 2014 after assembling some of the brightest brains at Cisco and paying for them to make an appraisal i presented my findings to the HSV POA BOD .. at that time i suggested making a FREE PUBLIC Wifi network for the entire village using the existing infrastructure, water towers, light poles, etc (all assets that the POA OWNS) to cover our needs and the needs of the Village. We would (and still could) track all of the HSV POA Assets (golf carts, tractors etc), LIVE REAL TIME Water Meter tracking (to find leaks and speed billing). All the while offering FREE (filtered – Pg13 rated) wifi to all residents, guest and offering an ON LINE HSV TV station to all users.
the Board seemed unimpressed at that time.
i will note that you have several incorrect statements in your article, Uverse (ATT) will only provide 50mgps and Suddenlink will provide 1g service (with a specail cable run ) and 400megs over a standard cable.
I REGULARLY test ATT towers in the village and i get 75-90 megs on my street (Sierra) from the cell tower. The ATT tower near Coronado Dam has tested OVER 125 meg per sec.
The new “internet” provider in HS is only tapping into the existing system on the bypass and reselling it to businesses. In 2013 ATT trenched new fiber (BIG orange tube) between Benton and Mnt Pine (passing though HSV on the way down Desoto). Before that time, Suddenlink only offered DOCSIS 2.0 (max speed 50 megs). They then upgraded from the ATT fiber and we now have blistering speeds from Suddenlink (where they provide it) .
The New ATT (4 years ago now) tower at Owensville is NOT (insanely) tied to the Fiber ATT ran in 2013 (WHO DOES THIS ? ) and it is a repeated signal (Hopped is the term) from Lonsdale (Cloud 9 rv park) Tower. That is why in the East end you may have LOST of Bars but no real data.
These issues you address (which i would be HAPPY to address at any time) will be corrected shortly as the market flattens out. ATT and Suddenlink will soon not be know as “phone” or Cable companies but as DATA providers.
The Coronado Dam tower proves the point that ATT CAN push BIG data (easily) as soon as they get Fiber to the Tower. Why they did not do this at Owensville REMAINS a mystery to me. But they will, in time tie it in.
The answer (in HSV and most of the Rural-suburbia areas) is NOT Fiber to the Curb… it is Fiber to the Tower. Which they are doing now. I notice in all of these BOD Candidate postings very few ppl address the REAL issue. The ONLY real issue that has yet to be addressed is the Cortez area ( i think most ppl are focused and frustrated over the East end ). The tower at Deborah’s (in photos on page) covers nearly all of Carmona to POA building area and up to Cortez.. the problem is that the Cortez are rises significantly and the tower loses connection. I (as an ATT user) have very little issues ANY where else in the Village except for that area. Verizon (legacy Alltel) has nicely covered the Village in the 90’s. Sprint NEVER works off of the major highways and VCN (variable carriers like Straight talk and others ) are hit and miss.
Dennis Simpson, 27 years as IT tech, Security Manager for State of AR, Telephony Expert.
Jeanette Sherman
03/16/2019 — 11:49 pm
I noted at the Candidate forum held at the Woodlands, the only candidate who even brought up the issue of broadband was David Childs. He is by far the best candidate for the upcoming BOD. None of the three supported by Mr. Blakeman discussed the issue at all. I was not surprised by this as Mr. Blakeman in an earlier writing identified himself as part of the “anti-new thought” group. I also agree that many of our infrastructure problems are the result of CCI using the POA’s assessment payments to pay for infrastructure costs for new development instead of taking care of the aging infrastructure needs. They then bailed on us to figure out on our own how to survive. Now they have come back and want to take control of our Village. Why?
donald lovelace
07/25/2019 — 12:51 pm
There is no doubt the future is 5G. Why there is not a plan in place is totally ridiculous. Any cable company ATT or Suddenlink is not running new residential fiber because they know the future is 5G. But like any household service, people want it to be affordable. Seems like the village could partner with a provider and try to recoup some expenses via some type of monthly charge.
Maybe the board and the CEO can come up with something lounging in the new pool.
John Szczepaniak
07/25/2019 — 11:00 pm
The state of Arkansas has received millions to improve high speed Internet in all communities of 500 or more. Whether we will benefit or not is not known to me.